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Re:Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Re... by HarryHirsch on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @12:57PM (#23761180)
The missing perspective is that there are visa mills just as there are diploma mills, and that enforcement from both Immigration and Customs and Department of Education is piss-weak. They should have gotten on top of these institutions long ago, but they wouldn't, so here we are.

There is Georgia Tech, but there is also the College of Northern Virginia. Here is some background: https://cis.org/Report/Dregs-Higher-Education-Damage-Our-Imm...

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Re:Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Re... by jhpriestley on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @01:13PM (#23761416)
The missing context on your comment is that the CIS is a hate group according to the SPLC, which is among other heinous things in favor of the family separation policy, a crime against humanity.
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Re:Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Re... by x3n0ph3n3 on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @01:19PM (#23761509)
SPLC is a joke nowadays. They scoop up all sorts of names and label them hatemongers. It takes a lawsuit to get them to recant: [1]

1. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/maajid-...

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Re:Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Re... by jhpriestley on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @01:49PM (#23761958)
If you think that one high-profile mistake makes them "a joke" then you might not be aware of how much work SPLC does. For example, here is their page on CIS, with hundreds of citations and direct quotes https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/grou...
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Re:Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Re... by corey_moncure on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @02:06PM (#23762172)
Approximately half of these quotes are completely void of race or hate at all. It's just that one disagrees with the politics of the other.
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Re:Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Re... by HarryHirsch on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @01:19PM (#23761501)
CIS is a hate group

That's embarrassing. But even so, if you don't deal with known abuses you get groups like this, so it's imperative on the government to get ahead of the crazy train.

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Re:Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Re... by mindslight on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @01:19PM (#23761503)
That's basically the cycle of bloated USG bureaucracy in a nutshell. Don't predictably go after bad actors because there aren't enough enforcement resources to spend prosecuting small operations. Enact many overbearing draconian regulations in response to the continued existence of the bad actors. This creates chilling effects and compliance costs on the good actors. Large institutions benefit from their position becoming more entrenched with paperwork. Repeat.
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Re:Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Re... by kerneltime on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @01:13PM (#23761421)
So instead of investigating visa mills, lets kick students out of US who are attending Georgia Tech? What was the saying about throwing the baby with the bath water..
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Re:Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Re... by gnulinux on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @01:53PM (#23762010)
What you're missing is this is affecting all students in Georgia Tech, Harvard, MIT etc as well.
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Re:Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Re... by jmhwang7 on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @01:14PM (#23761432)
Why are you calling Georgia Tech a visa mill/diploma mill?

It's not mentioned at all in that linked article.

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Re:Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Re... by brewdad on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @01:31PM (#23761682)
He's using GT as an example of a "real" school with real online opportunities. The counterexample is Northern Virginia.

On it's surface, with no prior knowledge of reputation, it can be hard to recognize the diploma mill from the legitimate program. This becomes even more difficult when the legit program is a lesser known, lower tier, but still properly functioning institution.

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Re:Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Re... by stonogo on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @01:19PM (#23761498)
I think the OP is contrasting Georgia Tech with a visa mill.
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