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Re:Google offers free fabbing for 130nm open-source chips by pjc50 on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @05:55AM (#23757417)
Does Google have a silicon team?
Re:Google offers free fabbing for 130nm open-source chips by trsohmers on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @06:07AM (#23757494)
As of a year and a half ago they had over 300+ people across Google working on silicon (RTL, verification, PD, etc) that I’m aware of.
Re:Google offers free fabbing for 130nm open-source chips by daanluttik on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @06:03AM (#23757464)
They created TPU's right? So somewhere inside the alphabet group they must have some expertise
Re:Google offers free fabbing for 130nm open-source chips by shagie on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @08:07PM (#23765694)
It wouldn't surprise me. They've been designing custom hardware for some time. Look at the Pluto switch and the "can we make something even more high performance" or "we can make it simpler, cheaper, more specialized and save some watts" (which in turn saves on power for computing and power for cooling costs).

At the scale that Google is at, it really wouldn't surprise me if they were working on their own silicon to solve the problems that exist at that scale.

Re:Google offers free fabbing for 130nm open-source chips by jeffbee on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @10:19AM (#23770099)
Pluto is merchant silicon in a box, like all their other switches.

"""Regularly upgrading network fabrics with the latest generation of commodity switch silicon allows us to deliver exponential growth in bandwidth capacity in a cost-effective manner."""

https://conferences.sigcomm.org/sigcomm/2015/pdf/papers/p183...

Re:Google offers free fabbing for 130nm open-source chips by shagie on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @12:17PM (#23771328)
I wasn't intending to claim that Pluto is custom silicon but rather that Pluto is an example of Google looking for simplicity, more (compute) power, and less (electrical) power.

The next step in that set of goals for their data center would be custom silicon where merchant silicon doesn't provide the right combination.

Re:Google offers free fabbing for 130nm open-source chips by harpratap on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @06:25AM (#23757602)
Manu Gulati - a very popular Silicon Engineer who worked at Apple left for Google. (He now works at Nuvia with other ex-Apple stalwarts)
Re:Google offers free fabbing for 130nm open-source chips by orbifold on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @06:18AM (#23757554)
They have Norman Jouppi, he apparently was involved in the TPU design.
Re:Google offers free fabbing for 130nm open-source chips by lrem on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @03:42AM (#23767798)
What are TPUs and quantum computers made of? ;)