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Re:Decision for 2020-21 Academic Year by MiroF on Monday July 06, 2020 @05:46PM (#23753171)
Your household income would be more than 96% of all Americans today and likely more than that when you were applying for college.

I'm not arguing that Harvard isn't expensive for affluent families, but even with an income like that you would still probably get financial aid. Harvard doesn't charge anything like full tuition to families under $200k a year, the point is just that they charge nothing at all if you make under $65k.

I fail to see how that is unfair.

Re:Decision for 2020-21 Academic Year by kortilla on Monday July 06, 2020 @06:41PM (#23753624)
Again, it’s just a “fuck you” to students who grew up in an upper middle class household in a high CoL area.

Harvard’s assumption that the parents can shill out tens of thousands for their kid is just dumb. They don’t realistically take into account parents that don’t care much about education, large families, parents with lots of debt, etc.

Re:Decision for 2020-21 Academic Year by MiroF on Monday July 06, 2020 @07:11PM (#23753816)
They take into account COL, they definitely take existing debt obligations into account, as well as size of family.

That said, yes, if you have more money left over per child than someone else, you are expected to pay more.

Re:Decision for 2020-21 Academic Year by vmception on Monday July 06, 2020 @06:40PM (#23753612)
My whole post was about how "income" doesn't factor in the liabilities and obligations or cost of living of anyone. Why would you respond with that reductionist answer? Why would a university penalize a student whose parents won't shift their budget, and that's assuming it is so simple?

I also asked a specific question, which you completely skipped, while doubling down on a fairness argument that this thread wasn't even about. You act knowledgeable in the matter and then aren't able to dive in, only defend your position. Its fine to say "I don't know", but right now what are you doing?

Were you saying that Harvard's "affordability" was anywhere close to the $3,000 tuition / semester I ended up paying? And that's because Harvard routinely makes up any number based on a variety of financial variables (which aren't as simple as "income") and ultimately feelings?

Re:Decision for 2020-21 Academic Year by GlennS on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @04:06AM (#23756810)
It's a price-segmentation system. It's not about fair. They have to target limited grants without much information to get the best set of students they can (plus probably keep some politicians happy about their demographics).

Household income of parents is obviously a bit of weird proxy for an almost-adult child. But, I bet it works quite well at finding academically inclined people who assumed they couldn't afford X University and persuading them that they can.

The alternative would probably be something like requiring all parents to buy "education insurance" for their children, which turns into a lump sum at 18, and then giving people with lower incomes a discount on that insurance. (This is a terrible idea, don't do it. Make education cheap or free instead.)