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Re:China suppression of Uighurs meets U.N. definition of gen... by saeranv on Sunday July 05, 2020 @01:23PM (#23740280)
I had a professor (a historian who studied Auschwitz) who used to argue the opposite. Germany was a modern, industrialized nation, with an educated population - and yet the majority of the population either actively committed genocide, or were complicit in some fashion. My professor thus argued that the conditions for the Holocaust are not unique, and there could easily be another one.
Re:China suppression of Uighurs meets U.N. definition of gen... by Lio on Sunday July 05, 2020 @02:13PM (#23740650)
I believe this was what the Milgram Experiment[1] was designed to investigate.

Sadly it seems to be backed up by Elliott’s famous experiment. [2] Where you tell one group of kids that they are superior to another group with different eye colour.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

2. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Elliott

Re:China suppression of Uighurs meets U.N. definition of gen... by andromeduck on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @11:38AM (#23760326)
Hayek's Road to Serfdom is still a good read and explains a lot of the process.
Re:China suppression of Uighurs meets U.N. definition of gen... by saeranv on Sunday July 05, 2020 @03:43PM (#23741307)
Really curious why I'm getting downvoted.
Re:China suppression of Uighurs meets U.N. definition of gen... by andromeduck on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @11:37AM (#23760308)
Most people prefer the great men version of history vs more structural takes, and even more like to think that since nazis are evil and they don't see themselves or their friends as evil then such a thing could never happen here.
Re:China suppression of Uighurs meets U.N. definition of gen... by aembleton on Sunday July 05, 2020 @01:54PM (#23740495)
> yet the majority of the population either actively committed genocide, or were complicit in some fashion

after they were plunged into poverty by the reparations demanded by the Treaty of Versailles. Plunder any first world country like that and expect the same.

Re:China suppression of Uighurs meets U.N. definition of gen... by throwaway6274 on Sunday July 05, 2020 @01:45PM (#23740419)
~50% of the population continues to support abortion, so I’d say we have a very long way to go.
Re:China suppression of Uighurs meets U.N. definition of gen... by orwin on Sunday July 05, 2020 @02:46PM (#23740905)
If contraception worked 100%, or if we were able to disable the libido whenever we want and prevent all rape from happening, maybe i would agree with that.

Since we're not, until someone convince me the violinist argument is not receivable[0], i would continue to support women wanting early abortion.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Defense_of_Abortion

Re:China suppression of Uighurs meets U.N. definition of gen... by totetsu on Sunday July 05, 2020 @09:53PM (#23743936)
I'd like to see some of Thomson's thought experiments made into VR minigames and released on steam.
Re:China suppression of Uighurs meets U.N. definition of gen... by wildfire on Sunday July 05, 2020 @01:57PM (#23740517)
Yes. How long until we can get to 100%?

Hopefully valuing life and allowing people to choose will become just the default.

Re:China suppression of Uighurs meets U.N. definition of gen... by throwaway6274 on Sunday July 05, 2020 @02:00PM (#23740540)
I don’t understand how you can say something like that with a clear conscience. But then again I don’t understand how China can treat the Uighurs the way they are and sleep at night either. I suppose people just rationalize other people in collective societal delusion as “sub-human” to the point where it’s easy to ignore.
Re:China suppression of Uighurs meets U.N. definition of gen... by Udik on Sunday July 05, 2020 @02:24PM (#23740737)
> I don’t understand how you can say something like that with a clear conscience

Not the gp, but my position is that equating a fetus to a person is a fallacy based in the idea that it's a potential person. Which however means it's actually not one. Human beings have language, thought, self-awareness, memories, knowledge, experience, friends, family, hopes and fears. A fetus, wild speculations aside, has none of these. A dna is just a long molecule, not necessary and not enough to attribute humanity. A developed brain and a sense of self instead are both necessary and sufficient. A fetus has neither.