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Re:After many false starts, hydrogen power might now bear fruit by sho on Sunday July 05, 2020 @05:15AM (#23737511)
> what can go wrong when you [..] rely on government oversight > this sounds like a traditional government project problem

I don't know why you're trying to turn this into an "obviously govt can't do anything" point. There are plenty of very well-run governments who would have ably foreseen and solved these problems. And no doubt there's any number of private companies who would have screwed up just as badly.

Trying to tar the entire idea of government with Pakistan's performance is pretty bad faith IMO.

Re:After many false starts, hydrogen power might now bear fruit by Jedd on Sunday July 05, 2020 @08:34AM (#23738221)
> > what can go wrong when you

You're mis-quoting me. Is this intentional?

I understand paraphrasing, but there's better (and more accurate) ways of doing that.

> I don't know why you're trying to turn this into an "obviously govt can't do anything" point. There are plenty of very well-run governments who would have ..

FWIW it wasn't a 'no government can do anything' claim.

I have no doubt that there are a number of government agencies that can do things.

The fact that this particular project delivered a measurable 20% of projected outcomes is the point.

If you have some alternative interpretations of this outcome, they'd be very welcome.

> And no doubt there's any number of private companies who would have screwed up just as badly.

Are you suggesting I can't claim something is bad -- because something else would be just as bad?

> Trying to tar the entire idea of government with Pakistan's performance is pretty bad faith IMO.

This is a bold leap, and no faith is involved.

Re:After many false starts, hydrogen power might now bear fruit by igravious on Sunday July 05, 2020 @05:47AM (#23737608)
Amen. Not just bad faith; ignorant, myopic and ahistorical.

> this sounds like a traditional government project problem -- susceptibility to corruption, vanity, hubris etc.

said the person on a web forum (the web comes from CERN, a gov project) over the internet (the internet comes from DARPA, a gov project) on a computer (ever heard of the ENIAC? a gov project)

Tech bros mouthing off off-topicly about the government is the most tedious and boring thing ever.

https://techpinions.com/its-not-just-the-internet-how-govern...

Re:After many false starts, hydrogen power might now bear fruit by Jedd on Sunday July 05, 2020 @08:47AM (#23738277)
> Amen. Not just bad faith; ignorant, myopic and ahistorical.

Referring to GP's wikipedia reference, can you explain the two 'for unknown reasons' on a) why the original (Canadian) contract was not engaged, and b) the Turkish project was not engaged.

What precisely was ashistorical about any of my post?

> > this sounds like a traditional government project problem -- susceptibility to corruption, vanity, hubris etc.

> said the person on a web forum (the web comes from CERN, a gov project) over the internet (the internet comes from DARPA, a gov project) on a computer (ever heard of the ENIAC? a gov project)

I really am bewildered.

Are you claiming that because I'm using the Internet I am not authorised to claim that any government project in any country at any time is beyond questioning?

> Tech bros mouthing off off-topicly about the government is the most tedious and boring thing ever.

Goodness.

I'm sorry you're bored, I'm not a tech bro, claims of poorly run projects within the land of the pure isn't off-topic to the claims made.

Re:After many false starts, hydrogen power might now bear fruit by igravious on Monday July 06, 2020 @02:13PM (#23750894)
Please go grind your axe somewhere else.
Re:After many false starts, hydrogen power might now bear fruit by Jedd on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @04:15AM (#23767944)
I'm assuming that since axes weren't government inventions that we're allowed to talk about them?