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Re:After many false starts, hydrogen power might now bear fruit by FabHK on Saturday July 04, 2020 @12:00PM (#23733140)
Regarding [1], the article quotes production costs of USD 50/MWh for renewables, and USD 100/MWh for coal (graph 3).

You/[1] is saying that with storage costs of USD 150,000 per MWh, renewables can be competitive? It doesn't compute, unless I misunderstand something.

Re:After many false starts, hydrogen power might now bear fruit by wtallis on Saturday July 04, 2020 @01:48PM (#23733775)
I think that $150000 per MWh buys you a storage system you can use more than once, rather than being the cost per usage of the storage system. After a few years, the amortized cost drops below coal generation.
Re:After many false starts, hydrogen power might now bear fruit by azdle on Saturday July 04, 2020 @12:10PM (#23733200)
Just from your numbers, it sounds like it's a good deal as long as you need to (grid) store less than 1/3 of your generated/consumed energy.
Re:After many false starts, hydrogen power might now bear fruit by FabHK on Friday July 10, 2020 @12:49PM (#23793453)
There's a factor of 1000 there.
Re:After many false starts, hydrogen power might now bear fruit by Retric on Saturday July 04, 2020 @04:00PM (#23734540)
150,000$ / 3,000 charge cycles (~8.3 years) = 50$/MWh = 0.05c/kWh.
Re:After many false starts, hydrogen power might now bear fruit by imtringued on Saturday July 04, 2020 @03:04PM (#23734216)
Batteries last longer than one cycle...