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Re:A look at the Gemini protocol: a brutally simple alternat... by wolco on Saturday July 04, 2020 @10:09AM (#23732279)
Or just create a browser without javascript support.
Re:A look at the Gemini protocol: a brutally simple alternat... by ddevault on Saturday July 04, 2020 @10:36AM (#23732484)
I wonder if everyone in this thread is willfully missing the point, or else if we're just so deep into the brainwashing of the modern web that they can no longer see the surface.
Re:A look at the Gemini protocol: a brutally simple alternat... by Wowfunhappy on Saturday July 04, 2020 @11:39AM (#23732993)
I’m just not convinced that HTML and especially HTTP are “rotten to the core”. You can make http://motherfuckingwebsite.com and the markup is all very clean.
Re:A look at the Gemini protocol: a brutally simple alternat... by nardi on Saturday July 04, 2020 @12:43PM (#23733402)
It’s about the network, not the website.
Re:A look at the Gemini protocol: a brutally simple alternat... by lal on Sunday July 05, 2020 @02:58PM (#23740989)
the markup might be clean but it's pretty ugly and network inefficient because it's full of boilerplate that is only required because html also supports 1000 times more nonsense than this site uses, so you have to type <p></p> to render every line of that text, or <a href=""></a> to just render a link. you need to do <h></h> for headings. if all you want to do in your content is those things, that markup is ridiculous.
Re:A look at the Gemini protocol: a brutally simple alternat... by Wowfunhappy on Sunday July 05, 2020 @03:39PM (#23741284)
> if all you want to do in your content is those things, that markup is ridiculous.

Why? I actually think it’s pretty clean. You have a one-to-two letter opening tag and an equivalent closing one.

Markdown looks aesthetically nicer and is easier to type, but it’s less precise.

Re:A look at the Gemini protocol: a brutally simple alternat... by gpsx on Saturday July 04, 2020 @11:31AM (#23732927)
Don't worry, if this were to ever catch on it would be incorporated into browsers, meaning the net effect is just to make browsers more complicated.
Re:A look at the Gemini protocol: a brutally simple alternat... by flatlanderwoman on Saturday July 04, 2020 @05:37PM (#23735075)
> meaning the net effect is just to make browsers more complicated.

Maybe it would, slightly. But would it make the browser anymore complicated then the unessential features that Firefox has in its default build right now?

Pocket integration, FF Sync, some screenshot function?

The web is so broken that my Firefox even has some Protection Dashboard thing (about:protections). Not that I've ever used or noticed it before.

Re:A look at the Gemini protocol: a brutally simple alternat... by ddevault on Saturday July 04, 2020 @02:15PM (#23733940)
That's the browser's problem. We'll still have a new, simpler protocol which we can use without the web stack.
Re:A look at the Gemini protocol: a brutally simple alternat... by ozfive on Saturday July 04, 2020 @12:48PM (#23733431)
This! I agreed wholeheartedly!
Re:A look at the Gemini protocol: a brutally simple alternat... by peteyboy on Sunday July 05, 2020 @03:51PM (#23741373)
I think both. But, hey, they are paying attention, I guess?