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Re:MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to... by UncleMeat on Friday July 03, 2020 @12:46AM (#23721083)
> When we erase history, we lose this guidance and direction.

The AHA has specifically put out a statement[0] about monuments. The prime quote:

> To remove a monument, or to change the name of a school or street, is not to erase history, but rather to alter or call attention to a previous interpretation of history.

Thucydides, arguably the very first historian ever, criticized statues and monuments as poor representations of history. It is important to understand the difference between history and historical memory. Monuments are not pedagogy tools. Actual professional historians do not see them as relevant for teaching us about the people they represent.

[0] https://www.historians.org/news-and-advocacy/aha-advocacy/ah...

Re:MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to... by beaner on Saturday July 04, 2020 @03:32AM (#23730781)
Historians are record-keepers of history, they are not arbiters of ethics, spirituality, and guidance. Statues of people are not meant to teach us about those people per se, but rather hold to us an example of exceptional attributes of those people that should be considered timeless so that we can follow them into the future. The determination of relevance in this context is not something that should be ceded to historians in any capacity other than to simply confirm or reject that the specific attribute that we appreciate in a figure is based on a historical accuracy. Did Lincoln free the slaves? Yes. Did Washington help lead a revolution? Yes. These are easy questions. The distinction between history and historical memory is not lost; based on an accurate history, we can highlight good attributes use them to reinforce timeless principles that we'd like to continue to carry through time.