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Re:Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, S... by LeifCarrotson on Thursday July 02, 2020 @10:30AM (#23713482)
Why should those engineers be paid $150k if they're generating more than $300k of value? For that matter, why should an Indian engineer be paid $80k if they're generating $300k of value minus whatever hidden costs you want to assign (surely not $220k)?
Re:Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, S... by ukoki on Thursday July 02, 2020 @10:34AM (#23713558)
People are paid based on how much a similarly skilled worker is willing to work for, not based on how much value they generate for a company.
Re:Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, S... by bronzeage on Thursday July 02, 2020 @10:45AM (#23713735)
They are paid between their value and what they are willing to work for. Where exactly in between depends on supply and demand. When demand is high, competition will drive the salary close to the value generated. When demand is low, cost cutting and unemployment will drive the salary towards the minimum price.
Re:Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, S... by jupp0r on Thursday July 02, 2020 @10:42AM (#23713696)
They are paid based on how much other companies are willing to pay the same worker.
Re:Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, S... by karpierz on Thursday July 02, 2020 @10:39AM (#23713642)
Why should an engineer be paid that value they produce when they assume none of the risk? If the company goes bankrupt, will the engineer be willing to bail the company out?

The engineer is paid less than the value they produce because they don't assume any of the risk. If the product they produce turns out to be worthless or break, they don't have to pay their salary back.

Re:Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, S... by egh5oon on Thursday July 02, 2020 @12:48PM (#23715184)
> Why should an engineer be paid that value they produce when they assume none of the risk?

Engineers are never fired? Not even when the company shuts down?

> If the company goes bankrupt, will the engineer be willing to bail the company out?

Sometimes yes, with their (and mine) taxes.

Re:Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, S... by karpierz on Thursday July 02, 2020 @02:25PM (#23716367)
> Engineers are never fired? Not even when the company shuts down?

Engineers never lose assets because their work doesn't produce value, or destroys value. Engineers aren't liable for the success of their work. Engineers don't have to return their salary if they don't produce value.

> Sometimes yes, with their (and mine) taxes.

This is an argument for everyone capturing the value produced by companies, not the employee. If you want to argue for harder taxation of corporations, or fewer business incentives, then sure. But this is unrelated to the relationship between the engineer and the company.

Re:Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, S... by frandroid on Thursday July 02, 2020 @10:32AM (#23713509)
The value generated is an interesting number when the company is hemorrhaging money...
Re:Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, S... by secondcoming on Thursday July 02, 2020 @12:50PM (#23715205)
How many engineers are able to directly convert their work into a revenue number? It's not like a Sales job where there are ever increasing targets and money coming in is recorded meticulously.
Re:Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, S... by belltaco on Thursday July 02, 2020 @08:05PM (#23719532)
Would you pay $300 for an item costing $150 if you use the item to make something more than $300 of value?

Didn't think so.

Re:Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, S... by RivieraKid on Thursday July 02, 2020 @10:40AM (#23713663)
Why should the internet cost orders of magnitude less than the value it generates?
Re:Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, S... by rdiddly on Thursday July 02, 2020 @10:52AM (#23713841)
Nobody is paid exactly what they're worth, because what would be the point? The company can break even like that by not hiring anybody.