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Re:Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked by red_admiral on Thursday July 02, 2020 @09:33AM (#23712898)
As someone who's worked in the sector (the crypto sector, not the crime one):

"Families of Mathematics" is a marketing statement, or "hot air" as I prefer to call it. The information content of that statement is zero, what it's doing is trying to project warm "you can trust us" feelings.

A statement aimed at technical people would read more like "we use AES-256-OFB with Axolotl on Curve25519 and scrypt(2^14, 8, 1)" or something like that.

To a crypto professional, I'd say any "trust us" statement that's not backed up by technical information actually lowers their trust in the system - it makes you wonder why they're not making their algorithm choice public.

Re:Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked by charwalker on Thursday July 02, 2020 @11:29AM (#23714358)
The US created a fake bank to catch drug runners and cartel bosses. What's to say this isn't an state intelligence backed company created not to sell a product but to be sold to criminals then listened to until warrants were signed?

I haven't looked into the service at all so could be totally off.

Re:Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked by pas on Thursday July 02, 2020 @11:38AM (#23714457)
Wow. Do you happen to have more details about that fake bank honeypot?
Re:Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked by taylorfinley on Thursday July 02, 2020 @01:45PM (#23715918)
There's an excellent episode of the npr podcast Planet Money that covers this story: https://www.npr.org/transcripts/694548245
Re:Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked by charwalker on Thursday July 09, 2020 @03:02PM (#23783761)
That's where I heard it, yeah.
Re:Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked by tlrobinson on Thursday July 02, 2020 @05:25PM (#23718240)
> To a crypto professional, I'd say any "trust us" statement that's not backed up by technical information actually lowers their trust in the system - it makes you wonder why they're not making their algorithm choice public.

IMHO if your solution isn't open source, or least completely documented so it can be verified, then the whole point is moot anyway.

Re:Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked by 0xFluegel on Thursday July 02, 2020 @09:50AM (#23713044)
Thanks for clarifying. You convinced me.
Re:Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked by strbean on Thursday July 02, 2020 @05:19PM (#23718184)
I just interpreted that as "we use RSA and ECC".