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Re:Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked by donkeyd on Thursday July 02, 2020 @08:54AM (#23712591)
> how would you start?

At the bottom usually. Either that, or you'll need some specific smarts or connections that are sought after. That's how it survives the loss of members. Many are low level and are replaceable, they have no actual knowledge about the high level trade. The high level bosses hide really well and try to stay untouchable by letting others do the dirty work.

From what I understand about Dutch organized crime, if you'd start for yourself, you'd have to fight a turf war and will always be at the top of multiple hit lists.

The safest bet is probably shipping drugs by mail through dark markets. A Dutch guy (SuperTrips) got arrested in Miami a couple of years ago. He sold drugs from his bedroom in his parental home. Was estimated to have earned 385k BTC through this.

If you want to see it at work, you could go to some of the Caribbean Islands. Drug trafficking runs through many of them and you can actually see the impact it has on some communities. In Haiti, I was warned to stay away from packages on the beach (though I didn't spot any). Apparently they throw them overboard near the coast, locals find them and sell them back to drug traffickers for about €50 a kg. This way the traffickers don't need to be directly involved with bringing them to shore.

Hopefully this gives you some info. There's lots of books and documentaries about this stuff too, by ex-criminals, insiders and researchers.

Re:Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked by fludlight on Thursday July 02, 2020 @09:32AM (#23712890)
> I was warned to stay away from packages on the beach

Ah, the infamous square grouper.

Re:Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked by llamataboot on Thursday July 02, 2020 @12:16PM (#23714856)
yeah, even parts of Panama and Costa Rica have so much cocaine running through them that people basically just have gobs of the stuff on them and 75% of the ex-pats there are somewhere between drunk and coke-addled most days :P Mind trying to buy it as a tourist though, "Just follow me down this alley" - ah you'll prob just a confusing fast run around about needing to make change in a currency not your own and end up with a little bit of what you thought you were buying for a whole lot more than it should have cost...
Re:Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked by DenisM on Thursday July 02, 2020 @12:45PM (#23715145)
>and Costa Rica have so much cocaine running through them that people basically just have gobs of the stuff on them and 75% of the ex-pats there are somewhere between drunk and coke-addled most days

Not my experience at all. The expats I met are usually doing some combination of bar work, yoga classes, and other such things. Among the entire cohort of the hostel inhabitants (mostly tourists I imagine?) I haven't seen one drunk or drugged person.

I did see plenty of drug dealers though - some shady dealers on the street and some very presentable resident dealers inside various venues. So there has to be a lot of drug use going on, just none that I have noticed.

Re:Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked by eternalny1 on Thursday July 02, 2020 @09:01AM (#23712661)
385k BTC is $3.6 billion USD.

I doubt he made _that_ much out of his parent's house.

Re:Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked by donkeyd on Thursday July 02, 2020 @09:20AM (#23712795)
At that time BTC peaked at $1k. So that would've been $380 million max. Also, this was apparently revenue, not profit.
Re:Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked by onetimemanytime on Thursday July 02, 2020 @09:14AM (#23712759)
BTC was not always worth that much...385k btc can also be around 80 pizzas. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/meet-the-man-who-spent-millions...
Re:Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked by rodiger on Thursday July 02, 2020 @09:05AM (#23712695)
In case you aren't being sarcastic he likely means $385k in BTC.

Edit: I was wrong holy shit that's a lot of money.

Re:Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked by donkeyd on Thursday July 02, 2020 @09:18AM (#23712791)
That's not what I meant, I meant 385k BTC. At that time BTC peaked at around $1k.
Re:Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked by jiofih on Thursday July 02, 2020 @02:24PM (#23716349)
I mean, why would you even continue risking it after $1m? $10m? $100m??