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Re:The Sci-Hub Effect: Sci-Hub downloads lead to more articl... by oefrha on Thursday July 02, 2020 @04:03AM (#23710992)
I'm pretty sure about this now.

I just looked into the actual data set[1], and analyzed a few papers from it, e.g. [2] the first paper in scopus_nature.csv. They're definitely available on Sci-Hub at least at the moment [3], and there's no reason to believe they weren't available back then.

Also, here's what they say about the dataset, emphasis mine:

> As a quality control, we performed a random sampling of all the articles retrieved, excluding those already present in the first data set. As in this second data set, the number of Sci-hub downloads is precisely equal to zero, we regard it as a control group (nC = 4,015) from which we are going to estimate comparisons for our experimental group (nE = 4,646).

Downloads equal to zero != not available.

[1] https://osf.io/xb9yn/

[2] https://www.scopus.com/inward/record.url?eid=2-s2.0-85016141...

[3] https://sci-hub.tw/10.1038/541123a

Re:The Sci-Hub Effect: Sci-Hub downloads lead to more articl... by Beldin on Thursday July 02, 2020 @05:16AM (#23711403)
So it seems that this papers result comes to "more downloads => more citations".

Of course, that is hardly a surprising result. I think most authors have read most papers they cite (although things like reviewer/editor shenanigans could make this less than 100%).

Of course, such a pedestrian result does not grab attention.

Re:The Sci-Hub Effect: Sci-Hub downloads lead to more articl... by amatic on Thursday July 02, 2020 @04:57AM (#23711304)
> Downloads equal to zero != not available.

I'm wondering about this too. What could be the possible other reason for the papers not being downloaded? Boring titles? Preprints easily available? Open access?

> and there's no reason to believe they weren't available back then.

Is it possible that the articles really were not available, as they used the data from sep-2015 to feb-2016, early version of SciHub?

Re:The Sci-Hub Effect: Sci-Hub downloads lead to more articl... by oefrha on Thursday July 02, 2020 @05:03AM (#23711335)
> Is it possible that the articles really were not available, as they used the data from sep-2015 to feb-2016, early version of SciHub?

That's within the realm of possibilities but sure doesn't sound like the case the way they described their methodology. That would have required a catalog of available papers on Sci-Hub too, but the dataset they used only contained download logs, so they couldn't have known whether a zero-download paper was available or not (unless I misunderstood what the first dataset is about).