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Re:RedHat Mandrel Makes Java Native by darksaints on Thursday July 02, 2020 @01:12AM (#23710215)
Yeah, it is not going to compile everything. For most Java apps, which were built in a world where startup time was a known disadvantage of the JVM, they will probably be better off with a JITed VM anyway. This is more of a new capability, allowing JVM languages the ability to move into usecases where they have never shined before. Like CLI apps, for example. I would expect most usage of AOT compilation will be for new software, not existing software.

That being said, generics and factory patterns aren't a problem for graal at all. Reflection and dynamic class loading are the biggest offenders.

Re:RedHat Mandrel Makes Java Native by MaxBarraclough on Thursday July 02, 2020 @06:13AM (#23711699)
How about GUI? Does JavaFX rely on dynamic classloading? (I presume so, given its XML-driven approach.) If so, would it be possible to refactor it away? Or perhaps introduce a preprocessing phase of some sort?
Re:RedHat Mandrel Makes Java Native by vips7L on Friday July 03, 2020 @08:44AM (#23723485)
Gluon put out substrate which is supposed to do this:

https://github.com/gluonhq/substrate

Re:RedHat Mandrel Makes Java Native by MaxBarraclough on Friday July 03, 2020 @10:41AM (#23724445)
Great that this is in the works.

Do you know about its workings?

Re:RedHat Mandrel Makes Java Native by vips7L on Friday July 03, 2020 @02:14PM (#23726177)
I do not, other than it's based on GraalVM native image. I just know of its existence. I believe this is how gluon is pushing crossplatform for iOS since apple doesn't like the JVM JIT.