Re:Hong Kong: UK makes citizenship offer to residents
by Veen on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @11:44AM
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It wasn’t so much the fact of immigration, but the lack of control over immigration.
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Re:Hong Kong: UK makes citizenship offer to residents
by mhh__ on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @01:30PM
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perceived lack of control.
Re:Hong Kong: UK makes citizenship offer to residents
by philwelch on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @01:56PM
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There’s nothing “perceived” about it—the UK was forced to admit any “EU citizen” who wanted to come and immediately grant them permanent residency, which already represents a fundamental loss of control.
Re:Hong Kong: UK makes citizenship offer to residents
by foldr on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @02:02PM
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Why are you putting "EU citizen" in scare quotes? It's a perfectly well-defined concept.
The UK was certainly not obliged to immediately grant them permanent residency. See e.g. here https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/residence-ri...
Re:Hong Kong: UK makes citizenship offer to residents
by Veen on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @02:18PM
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While there was no obligation to grant permanent residency, the criteria that would allow removal before the five years (or two years in some cases) are narrow. If someone had a job and in some cases when they didn’t, it was impossible to remove them unless they posed a serious threat. That is, in fact, a significant limitation on the control the UK could exert over immigration from the EU.
Re:Hong Kong: UK makes citizenship offer to residents
by foldr on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @02:19PM
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Well, yes, there was freedom of movement. I'm not sure why being unable to remove someone who has a job is so terrible. We could have chosen to put a cap on migration from relatively poor EU countries, but we chose not to.
Re:Hong Kong: UK makes citizenship offer to residents
by cm2187 on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @01:55PM
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How could the UK control it?
Re:Hong Kong: UK makes citizenship offer to residents
by foldr on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @02:04PM
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We could have opted in to stricter controls on migration from Eastern Europe, but no-one wanted to at the time, as there would have been no benefit to doing so.
https://theconversation.com/the-huge-political-cost-of-blair...