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Re:Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd... by jakelazaroff on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @04:31PM (#23694438)
> Do you expect police to just stand around and wait until people feel like following lawful orders?

If he was breaking the law, why did they assault him rather than arresting him?

Also, how do we know the orders were lawful?

> If you have a peanut allergy you shouldn't be hanging around in peanut factories looking for trouble (as the old guy was on video laughing earlier that day)

How is it relevant that he was laughing earlier?

The point is that it's incumbent on the police to determine the appropriate amount of force to use, not on civilians to retreat based on a worst–case scenario of what the police can do to them. They exist to serve us, not the other way around.

Re:Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd... by nalllar on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @04:34PM (#23694464)
> Do you expect police to just stand around and wait until people feel like following lawful orders?

Yes? If they're incapable of enforcing their orders without hurting people they should not be trying to enforce them.

It's bloody alien seeing Americans arguing over this sort of thing as if there's a context that makes hurting the people you're sworn to protect okay. The rest of the world seems to understand what the point of police is.

Re:Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd... by monocasa on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @05:11PM (#23694826)
Well, one point is that police here aren't in fact sworn to protect members of the populace. The case law in federal court is that the police don't owe any individual a specific duty to protect them, and that "protect and serve" is a toothless slogan with no basis in law.
Re:Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd... by monocasa on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @04:30PM (#23694424)
> Do you expect police to just stand around and wait until people feel like following lawful orders?

I expect them to not shove the elderly onto concrete and then walk away as blood flows out of their ears.

That's not a high bar.

Re:Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd... by renewiltord on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @05:50PM (#23695188)
Stipendium peccati mors est, eh? For a nation I love dearly for its stated stance on liberty, there is quite the undercurrent of authoritarianism here.
Re:Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd... by jessaustin on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @04:52PM (#23694641)
...lawful orders...

This is a null category. Free people don't take orders from their employees.