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Re:Friedrich Hayek on Evolution and Spontaneous Order (1983)... by xtian on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @10:29AM (#23690364)
The most famous example is when Sears was internally organized around free market ideology by an Ayn Rand adherent. It did not go well. Declining profits drove a viscous cycle of back-stabbing and secrecy among competing units inside the company.

My impression is that the people who argue against central planning always rationalize backwards from a pre-established conclusion. The fact is that the experiment has never been allowed to proceed on a national scale without violent undermining from the forces of private capital, both internal and external.

Re:Friedrich Hayek on Evolution and Spontaneous Order (1983)... by trunc8 on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @08:12PM (#23696322)
While his company and name seem to trigger a whole lot of people, Charles Koch has applied such a free market philosophy throughout his company, which is undoubtedly successful. I would recommend reading his book (Good Profit) to get a viewpoint of his approach, though unfortunately bias will preclude many from this.
Re:Friedrich Hayek on Evolution and Spontaneous Order (1983)... by xtian on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @11:27AM (#23702511)
Do you have any sources which aren't the person in charge congratulating themselves?
Re:Friedrich Hayek on Evolution and Spontaneous Order (1983)... by gnusty_gnurc on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @11:39AM (#23691144)
> My impression is that the people who argue against central planning always rationalize backwards from a pre-established conclusion.

If you study the origins of central planning and the birth of the progressive movement in the early 20th century, you'll see that private capital loved central planning. Notions of ultimate efficiency through experts directing organizations through central planning went hand-in-hand with a lot of evil stuff. The obsession with perfection through "science" and tending to the "societal organism" was really contra the idea of free markets, individual rights, etc. They drew on evolution in precisely the worst way(narcissism and hubris).

Whereas Hayek draws on evolution to say that culture and society develops through independent actors discovering traditions, organizations, etc. Through the observation of many people/organizations attempting things and either failing or succeeding, society picks up things to copy and reproduce - the lesson being that we can't direct evolution, it emerges!

Re:Friedrich Hayek on Evolution and Spontaneous Order (1983)... by xtian on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @12:27PM (#23691770)
I agree, it’s well documented that private capital loves fascism and totalitarianism. I’m speaking of socialist central planning though. The idea that free-marketism provides the ideal environment for human freedom and societal development is just demonstrably false in so many ways.