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Re:Why we won’t be supporting Sign in with Apple by renewiltord on Monday June 29, 2020 @06:39PM (#23684247)
Perhaps you don't use AnyList? It doesn't make sense to use with a private mail relay because they use email as an addressing system. And honestly, few users will go look up their per-app address and tell people to add them.
Re:Why we won’t be supporting Sign in with Apple by KeepFlying on Monday June 29, 2020 @07:42PM (#23684819)
This is where their article lost credibility with me. Their decision to base their sharing and addressing system on email was their mistake, and Apple is just the first to force them to face their mistake.

I don't want to share my spam email with all my friends to get them to share with me. And I don't want to give my primary email to an app that will spam me.

If I want to share something, I'll send a link and the recipient can connect to me that way. I don't need to search them within the app to get in contact, that's useless.

> so when they enter your email address, our systems will believe that you don’t have an account. At that point, you’ll get an email from us asking you to create an account.

This is a trivial part of the problem to solve. Why am I being asked to create an account in an invite email? Why not "log in or create account" and having the link itself be the piece that connects the share to me.

Re:Why we won’t be supporting Sign in with Apple by JAlexoid on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @12:05AM (#23686432)
It's not a mistake, by any means.

It's dead clear that you don't work with consumers. Your technical bias shows what you care about and you're(an me) are an utter minority.

If you want security, btw - you should have multiple passwords for different things. And ideally not even use a password manager.

Re:Why we won’t be supporting Sign in with Apple by mahnouel on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @05:51AM (#23688391)
Why should he not use a password manager?
Re:Why we won’t be supporting Sign in with Apple by JAlexoid on Thursday July 02, 2020 @08:41PM (#23719783)
You're storing all of your password in one location. Behind just one password.

What's the point in password manager, if all you need is one time auth - and you're in!

Re:Why we won’t be supporting Sign in with Apple by swagonomixxx on Monday June 29, 2020 @07:20PM (#23684602)
Ah, I wasn't aware that e-mail was used as an addressing system within AnyList. Do users not have any usernames associated with their e-mails?

Still, I think in this day and age, having a requirement in your product that says "e-mail that is provided should be the one the user uses the most" is pretty naive. In general, it's true, but when it comes to 3rd party authentication providers like Facebook, Google, and now Apple, this kind of requirement is not really useful and will likely cause issues for you down the line, which is why usernames are better for addressing people within apps (e.g, Instagram handles).

Re:Why we won’t be supporting Sign in with Apple by renewiltord on Monday June 29, 2020 @07:49PM (#23684876)
It is rather unusual, honestly. Even Venmo uses just an app-specific name. That's probably a lesson in product design: have your own usernames.
Re:Why we won’t be supporting Sign in with Apple by crooked-v on Monday June 29, 2020 @10:27PM (#23685873)
I'd personally for for the method used by Blizzard and Discord where a randomly generated ID is the actual unique value, while the username is just a display setting.
Re:Why we won’t be supporting Sign in with Apple by renewiltord on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @03:06AM (#23687462)
I get all the advantages of that but for some reason it's so hard when you get into a game and you're trying to get everyone there into a discord.

Riot does this with Valorant too and the implementation is a nightmare.