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Re:Why do so few people major in computer science? (2017) by chrisseaton on Monday June 29, 2020 @08:26AM (#23676926)
> Is the social status of computer scientists zero, or do computer scientists choose not to go into politics or other leadership positions?

Well the outcome is the same either way. And if none of the institutions have any computer scientists in them now good luck to the first few people trying because they work on social connections.

There's a social ceiling to computer scientists. I won't call it a glass ceiling even because everyone can see it.

Take an institution like the NSA - where probably some of the best computer scientists and mathematicians are working doing some of the most cutting edge work with the best resources. Who leads them? A low social status computer scientist? Of course not. They get in a high social status military officer to do that job - can't trust the computer scientists and can you blame them because they won't have any influence in society to get anything done anyway!

Re:Why do so few people major in computer science? (2017) by jki275 on Monday June 29, 2020 @12:16PM (#23678969)
General Nakasone is a lifelong intelligence officer with degrees in the field of intelligence, and he’s been in the intelligence and cyber warfare fields for decades.

He’s not a computer scientist, but he’s also not an English teacher they just stuck in charge because he has a star. He’s highly qualified for that job, as are most people who have been assigned there. NSA does a lot of things that are not computer science, and many senior people there do come out of the engineering and CS fields.

Re:Why do so few people major in computer science? (2017) by chrisseaton on Monday June 29, 2020 @12:21PM (#23679012)
> He’s highly qualified for that job

He is, yes. And one of his essential qualifications needed for the job is being respected by the establishment because he's come through the establishment institutions and a profession respected by society with a combat action badge, rather than a technical contributor, which society does not respect.

Re:Why do so few people major in computer science? (2017) by jki275 on Monday June 29, 2020 @12:47PM (#23679246)
One of those essential qualifications is being technically competent, which he clearly is.

Having a CAB is not one of those qualifications, most NSA directors have not had one or had any combat experience.

Just as most CEOs are hired for their business expertise, not only their technical abilities.