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Re:Crispr gene editing in human embryos wreaks chromosomal m... by mrfusion on Sunday June 28, 2020 @02:06PM (#23670727)
I’m confused. Don’t we use crispr all the time on other organisms? Mice, drosophila, etc. wouldn’t we already have seen this?
Re:Crispr gene editing in human embryos wreaks chromosomal m... by _nothing on Sunday June 28, 2020 @05:24PM (#23672182)
What makes you think we haven't?

"Previous work using CRISPR in mouse embryos and other kinds of human cell had already demonstrated that editing chromosomes can cause large, unwanted effects. But it was important to demonstrate the work in human embryos as well, says Urnov, because different cell types might respond to genome editing differently."

It says of one study "Of 18 genome-edited embryos, about 22% contained unwanted changes". Such a failure rate probably isn't such a big deal in some applications. In embryos, especially human embryos, it's definitely a big deal.

Re:Crispr gene editing in human embryos wreaks chromosomal m... by klipt on Sunday June 28, 2020 @07:17PM (#23672800)
In a way, large changes that make the embryo completely unviable would be less bad: the embryo would be wasted, but at least you wouldn't have caused someone a lifetime of genetic disease.

The worst case scenario would be a viable but badly diseased embryo.

I wonder if they can tell which of these outcomes they got from the experiment.

Re:Crispr gene editing in human embryos wreaks chromosomal m... by Amorymeltzer on Sunday June 28, 2020 @05:01PM (#23672017)
Brief background: CRISPR originated as a pseudo-adaptive immune system in bacteria to fight against phage viruses, including the Cas9 protein. We can use it outside of bacteria (ie, in eukaryotes) because we can customize the adapter/recognition RNA molecules used, usually around 25-30 baseppairs long IIRC.

Some quick reasons:

- A 25 base-pair RNA can probably kinda-sort-sometimes bind/recognize sequences as short as around 5 basepairs. It may not be the majority of incidences, but it can happen.

- There are different Cas9 proteins. They do many things, with some are more effective at certain activities and some eliciting a stronger host response. There's a balancing act.

- The human genome is somewhere around 1000 times larger than a bacteria like E. coli.

- We have seen them! Tons of them! Scientists will customize and tweak proteins and RNAs to match a given organism. It's obviously harder in humans...

Re:Crispr gene editing in human embryos wreaks chromosomal m... by rwbhn on Sunday June 28, 2020 @05:14PM (#23672110)
FTA: Previous work using CRISPR in mouse embryos and other kinds of human cell had already demonstrated that editing chromosomes can cause large, unwanted effects.