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Re:Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets ... by yogthos on Sunday June 28, 2020 @08:52AM (#23668395)
Nothing can prevent terrible people from using an open source project. Meanwhile, Reddit doesn't do much of anything about this problem either. For, example /r/metacanada exists, and white supremacists from there are also moderating /r/canada subbreddit, Reddit hasn't taken any action on that. At least the developers of Lemmy are very clear [1] about their stance regarding nazis, that's more than I can say for Reddit. It's also worth noting that Mastodon has millions of users now, and it clearly isn't attracting the worst people. In fact, I find it's a far healthier and friendlier community than Twitter.

[1] https://dev.lemmy.ml/post/34286

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Re:Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets ... by trackofalljades on Sunday June 28, 2020 @10:19AM (#23668846)
The situation on /r/canada is heartbreaking. Over recent weeks, almost every attempt to post a news article involving civil rights or anything overtly related to Black, LGBTQ+ or Indigenous issues has been immediately zeroed down, and in many cases then removed by a mod (their favourite method is to just hit the "dupe" button on all posts about a given news item or opinion piece, claiming they're all dupes, and not leaving one up).

If you make the mistake of discussing this on any other Canadian related sub where the /r/canada mods frequent, they'll ban you for life and say that you were "brigading."

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Re:Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets ... by adtac on Sunday June 28, 2020 @11:18AM (#23669296)
in case you didn't know, come to /r/onguardforthee, the sane and inclusive Canadian subreddit
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Re:Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets ... by intsunny on Sunday June 28, 2020 @12:26PM (#23669879)
Looking at the mod list of /r/canada [0]. and /r/metacanada [1], I'm not seeing any overlap of mods.

Am I missing something?

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/about/moderators/ [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/metacanada/about/moderators/

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Re:Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets ... by lillesvin on Sunday June 28, 2020 @09:43AM (#23668635)
The Reddit admins don't meddle in who moderates what. They'll take action on subreddits against the ToS but if someone's a mod on both /r/EvilShitThatsProbablyIllegal and /r/Kittens it's not something they're going to do anything about — and rightly so, IMO.
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Re:Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets ... by yogthos on Sunday June 28, 2020 @10:19AM (#23668849)
The problem is that /r/metacanda is a hate sub for white supremacists by white supermacists. Apparently that's well within Reddit ToS though.
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Re:Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets ... by Vaslo on Sunday June 28, 2020 @01:33PM (#23670447)
What is an example of a “White Supremacist” message on there? Not seeing anything supremacist in the first 10 or so top messages.
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Re:Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets ... by pasabagi on Monday June 29, 2020 @01:49AM (#23674745)
Nazis tend to have a lot of dog-whistles, and it's hard to keep up with them, but I tend to assume that any site that includes direct slurs ('retard', etc) with a lot of more subtle symbols (pepe everywhere, 'globalists') and a lot of content ridiculing various minorites and 'leftists' is probably a Nazi hangout.
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Re:Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets ... by kemonocode on Sunday June 28, 2020 @10:36AM (#23668963)
Taking such a strong proselytizing stance when it comes to Antifa is not exactly a good look in my eyes either as the entire situation reeks of thinking "Antifa" only means "Anti-fascist." I subscribe strongly to the horseshoe theory and Antifa is closer to those they purportedly fight against than most people are comfortable with admitting.

But hey, that's the beauty (and ugliness) of federation: I don't have to like it and I can just start my own server. On the flipside, it also means I need to be beholden to a considerable amount of social rules, some of them unwritten, if I want to federate with the majority of the servers out there. I know how it goes, I've seen it first-hand when it comes to ActivityPub instances. That's how you get cliques.

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Re:Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets ... by door99 on Sunday June 28, 2020 @01:04PM (#23670217)
How on earth is being against fascism and being for fascism similar in any regards at all
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Re:Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets ... by yogthos on Sunday June 28, 2020 @01:32PM (#23670440)
In fact, I'd argue that anybody who's not explicitly anti-fascist is at the very least comfortable with fascism.
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Re:Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets ... by kemonocode on Sunday June 28, 2020 @02:52PM (#23671107)
I am anti-fascist. Neo-Nazis and anyone who espouse similar views will get absolutely no love from me. That doesn't mean I stand with Antifa.
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Re:Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets ... by door99 on Sunday June 28, 2020 @03:19PM (#23671308)
>I am anti-fascist

>That doesn't mean I stand with Antifa.

Do you know what antifa is short for

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Re:Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets ... by ThA0x2 on Monday June 29, 2020 @09:26AM (#23677341)
Time for you to move to move to the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

After all, it's all in the name!

https://ifunny.co/picture/we-call-ourselves-the-anti-bad-guy...

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Re:Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets ... by yogthos on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @11:09AM (#23690835)
So, do enlighten us, what exactly do you claim antifa actually stands for if you're saying they're not acting in the spirit of their name?
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Re:Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets ... by door99 on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @03:57PM (#23694134)
Antifa is a decentralized organization of people fighting against fascism. They don’t have a positive ideology, literally the only thing that unifies them is anti fascism. Communists, anarchists, and liberals may all call themselves antifa
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Re:Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets ... by ThA0x2 on Thursday July 02, 2020 @01:55AM (#23710417)
Using that logic Republicans could call themselves antifa since almost everyone, Republicans included, is against fascism. It's when you define "fascism" as anything right of Trotsky that people start have issues with your ideology.
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Re:Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets ... by patmorgan23 on Sunday June 28, 2020 @01:41PM (#23670501)
Fascism is not he only form of authoritarianism. Many people commit thuggery and intimidation against people who hold normal everyday views in the name of anti-fascist action. The name of a movement doesn't mean it can't be coopted for other purposes/drift from its original purpose. Just like the nature/culture of subreddits change over time.
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Re:Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets ... by door99 on Sunday June 28, 2020 @02:13PM (#23670792)
If you think antifa is targeting “normal everyday views” I’m concerned about what sort of views you think those are. Do you think that neonazi and alt right organizations hold “everyday normal views”? That’s what antifa targets
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Re:Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets ... by airtonix on Sunday June 28, 2020 @11:42PM (#23674142)
If you think The Spanish Inquisition is targeting “normal everyday views” I’m concerned about what sort of views you think those are. Do you think that not acknowledging God as our one true saviour and creator and those jewish/muslim/eastern-orthodox/atheist organizations hold “everyday normal views”? That’s what the Spanish Inquisition targets?
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