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Re:Facebook announces policy changes ahead of 2020 elections by tekknik on Friday June 26, 2020 @06:43PM (#23657894)
Except if I say no, and they try to take it anyway, they are breaking and entering. When the government says no, and it’s in violation of a law written by them, we have to revolt to have them step down.

Further listen to his definition of a gun he’ll take. First off the AR-15 is not and never has been used on a battlefield, it’s a civilian gun. Most people don’t own M16’s due to the licensing required. Second is they want to take guns that can be used to kill people, this is all guns. He is frothing at the mouth to take guns that look scary.

Re:Facebook announces policy changes ahead of 2020 elections by tonyhb on Friday June 26, 2020 @07:22PM (#23658128)
No-one is forcing entry to take guns! If the time comes:

1. You'll be asked to hand in guns

2. You can choose not to. You can say it's in the trash. You threw it away. Whatever.

The US gov't will need a warrant to come in and search property. All for a gun that you might own? But that you now know is an "extra" crime to use? That's not going to happen. Manpower, cost, trouble, the chance of escalation - it's not worth it. So yes, keep it locked away if you so choose.

I get your point, but it's an assumption to say that the police are going to _force entry and remove everyone's guns_. That will not ever happen.

I just want to disclaim that I genuinely don't care about guns whether people keep them or not. After being in the UK with acid attacks, keep em. No horse in this race. Just do not understand why people are so determined to say that you'll have them forcefully stolen from you, when just a tiny bit of thinking - and precedent! - shows you that it's not going to happen.

Re:Facebook announces policy changes ahead of 2020 elections by refurb on Friday June 26, 2020 @07:54PM (#23658312)
But the US federal gov't already forcefully takes guns away from people when they are breaking the law.[1]

If that law is changed to include guns that are now legal, why would you think the ATF won't seize those guns too?

Not long ago the ATF determined that certain airsoft guns were "machine guns". They pretty quickly asked the seller for a list of customers, followed up with each and seized them.

[1]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/12/04/excl...

Re:Facebook announces policy changes ahead of 2020 elections by harryh on Friday June 26, 2020 @11:10PM (#23659214)
Drugs are currently (mostly) illegal in the US. If the police have good reason to believe that you have illegal drugs in your house they can and will force entry and take the drugs. And arrest you. Sometimes while doing this they end up killing people. Happens all the time.

Why would you expect laws making guns illegal would be any different than the laws we already have making drugs illegal?

Re:Facebook announces policy changes ahead of 2020 elections by tekknik on Saturday June 27, 2020 @10:10AM (#23661925)
I choose option 3, try and take it. It's in direct violation of the second amendment. They do not have the power and if they attempt to this will most definitely turn ugly as there are millions in the US that will not stand for this. You need to understand that one of two reasons we have the second amendment right is protect us from a government that could turn totalitarian or not "for the people". So when a politician says they want to take guns, this is step one of totalitarian regime stepping in and this one act alone has the power to start another civil war.