Mobilewalla used cellphone data to estimate the demographics of protesters

Re:Mobilewalla used cellphone data to estimate the demograph... by ajzinsbwbs on Friday June 26, 2020 @03:50PM (#23656206)

You could have a sign that said “fix the police”, “reform the police”, etc and it would more accurately describe your views than “abolish the police” (assuming you are indeed not a person who wants to abolish the police). And I’m sure you could come up with a lot of creative and compelling ways to say it. It’s not possible to fully describe the subtlety of your views in a protest sign, but at least you can make a sign that‘a compatible with your views.

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Re:Mobilewalla used cellphone data to estimate the demograph... by godelski on Friday June 26, 2020 @04:02PM (#23656323)

I'm not disagreeing with you. I think "fix the police" is a more accurate slogan. But slogans are intended to prime someone about an idea (not to convey!) and generate emotion. But trying to read any slogan as a literal meaning is simply naive. Slogans have to be smaller than a tweet and look at what a clusterfuck conversations on twitter are. Hell, even here where we can type hundreds of words it is difficult to accurately convey complex ideas.

I said in another comment, communication has 3 components: what is said, what was meant, and what was heard. We have to recognize that these are 3 different things and frequently all 3 are different. Communication is extremely difficult. So try to say what you mean and try to hear what was meant. (obviously this is a saying and in of itself is limited and should be taken more as a baseline idea rather than a literal and absolute point to stand on)

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Re:Mobilewalla used cellphone data to estimate the demograph... by triceratops on Friday June 26, 2020 @04:33PM (#23656684)

"Defund police" isn't the same string value as "Abolish police". In your haste to demand correctness from others, you seem to be twisting words yourself.

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Re:Mobilewalla used cellphone data to estimate the demograph... by ajzinsbwbs on Friday June 26, 2020 @04:41PM (#23656785)

The phrase “abolish the police” is used in the grandparent, great-grandparent, 4-parent, 5-parent, and 6-parent of my post.

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Re:Mobilewalla used cellphone data to estimate the demograph... by triceratops on Friday June 26, 2020 @05:04PM (#23657029)

You're right, fair enough.

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