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Re:Santa Cruz, California bans predictive policing in U.S. f... by dv_dt on Friday June 26, 2020 @03:04PM (#23655685)
Crime rates nationally dropped also during the same time - and not all areas had the same analytics. It's really not clear if the reductions were from the NYC stats or in particular "agressive" law enforcement.
Re:Santa Cruz, California bans predictive policing in U.S. f... by misja111 on Friday June 26, 2020 @04:34PM (#23656693)
From the article that OP linked to:

"Since Compstat was introduced, crime rates in New York City have dropped dramatically. From 1993 to 1995, the total crime rate declined 27.44 percent across the city."

National crime rates dropped as well in that period but nowhere near 27%.

Re:Santa Cruz, California bans predictive policing in U.S. f... by dv_dt on Friday June 26, 2020 @05:26PM (#23657242)
Seems like national stats maybe lagged NYC a little, but from a slightly different range of 1994-2000 on this chart the drop was (eyballing) 35% for homicides.

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2020/police-budget-spe...

Re:Santa Cruz, California bans predictive policing in U.S. f... by latortuga on Friday June 26, 2020 @03:21PM (#23655890)
This is so utterly compelling a rebuttal that I can hardly believe the original argument was made in the first place. You can't argue that tool X led to outcome Y if everyone had the same outcome without tool X, and in fact the evidence then leads to the opposite causality: tool X is useless toward outcome Y.
Re:Santa Cruz, California bans predictive policing in U.S. f... by bronson on Friday June 26, 2020 @03:29PM (#23655969)
True, CompStat is not at all "widely credited" with contributing to the nationwide drop in crime. Even its contribution to NYC's drop is debatable: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CompStat#Critique
Re:Santa Cruz, California bans predictive policing in U.S. f... by Barrin92 on Friday June 26, 2020 @03:51PM (#23656217)
not only nationally, but worldwide!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_drop

In Germany we have no "predictive policing" to my knowledge, and even cameras and so on are used conservatively given how privacy sensitive we ware. Yet we've seen the exact same development over recent decades.

Re:Santa Cruz, California bans predictive policing in U.S. f... by mensetmanusman on Friday June 26, 2020 @10:22PM (#23659015)
NY police were working in Germany......... or

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