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Re:Blackballed by PayPal, Sci-Hub switches to Bitcoin by vmception on Thursday June 25, 2020 @10:09PM (#23648002)
So although stablecoins exist which are great for predictable commerce (having a treasury of the amount value you expected), a key piece of the infrastructure is that Ethereum clients don't work over Tor.

Most stablecoin activity is on the Ethereum network, and the clients have never prioritized Tor use.

Ethereum also hosts privacy that all fungible assets can inherit, using Tornado.cash people can trade notes of unknown amounts, redeemable any time. Using Aztec people can make any token private, and communities can consider doing private-by-default tokens including with stablecoins if the issuer started it that way.

So its not as simple as Bitcoin OR Monero. There is a looming large piece of the puzzle that simply is missing one piece - ease of use over Tor. Layer2 solutions on Ethereum also inherit privacy inadvertently, while solving scaling issues on layer1.

Of course, sci-hub doesn't NEED Tor itself for donations, being fairly benign, but as soon as that piece exists, many tech savvy people simply use that route. Monero will likely remain superior but technically lesser solutions can solve the actual market needs better, since the attack surface isn't that consequential.

Re:Blackballed by PayPal, Sci-Hub switches to Bitcoin by JasoonS on Friday June 26, 2020 @03:19AM (#23649571)
That's not true. For example: https://link.medium.com/cGM3v6dTC7

Also you can use tornado.cash for example over Tor. Or any dapp via something like metamask (or another wallet) over Tor.

Re:Blackballed by PayPal, Sci-Hub switches to Bitcoin by vmception on Friday June 26, 2020 @03:58AM (#23649756)
Thanks

So if you are using a Tor operating system like tails, metamask is not available because you wont be using chrome or brave on that OS, installing extensions in tor browser firefox isnt readily available either

Other wallets are not easily compiled on debian and it appears to be a complete afterthought

Yes sending to a node that happens to be routing over tor should be easy

There are too many hurdles and fixing those hurdles will make this viable and more commonplace, where I gather the market doesnt actually want to switch between bitcoin and monero if many are already in the ethereum ecosystem

Re:Blackballed by PayPal, Sci-Hub switches to Bitcoin by AgentME on Friday June 26, 2020 @04:38AM (#23649946)
Metamask seems to be available on Firefox.
Re:Blackballed by PayPal, Sci-Hub switches to Bitcoin by vmception on Friday June 26, 2020 @09:42AM (#23651849)
okay now put it in the Tor Browser Bundle on Tails, how is that done?

even on Osx/Windows, how would metamask be used with the Tor route?

I don't think you've ever done this, only replied

Re:Blackballed by PayPal, Sci-Hub switches to Bitcoin by AgentME on Friday June 26, 2020 @07:05PM (#23658041)
The Tor Browser Bundle is just a tweaked version of Firefox, so Firefox extensions should work for it. https://github.com/MetaMask/metamask-extension/issues/4771 implies that it works, maybe with some bumps. I would expect that the Tor Browser Bundle works by configuring Firefox's proxy setting, which should apply to all traffic including extension traffic, but that's certainly worth double-checking.
Re:Blackballed by PayPal, Sci-Hub switches to Bitcoin by mirimir on Friday June 26, 2020 @12:30AM (#23648735)
> ... Ethereum clients don't work over Tor.

That's always bothered me. It also amazes me how much clients seem restricted to smartphones and Chrome.

Re:Blackballed by PayPal, Sci-Hub switches to Bitcoin by Scott_Sanderson on Friday June 26, 2020 @12:29AM (#23648731)
What's the relevance of whether eth clients work over Tor? A wallet's history would be available on a block explorer like etherscan.io whether the transaction had been broadcast over Tor network or not. I run a bitcoin node over Tor but it does not change how any money spent from that wallet is viewed by the network compared to spending from a non-Tor wallet.
Re:Blackballed by PayPal, Sci-Hub switches to Bitcoin by vmception on Friday June 26, 2020 @03:12AM (#23649532)
It has been trivially easy to disassociate an address from your identity for half a decade.

You just go from fiat to Monero. And then over Tor you swap or morph Monero to the surveillance coin you actually want. The centralized swapping service wont know your IP address due to Tor, Monero uniquely doesnt have transaction history, and the address you provide for the surveillance coin will be a virgin one never used before.

So the swapping service and all the blockchain sleuths will be stopped cold. Actually they wont be stopped they’ll just be following transactions forever thinking it has the same beneficial owner. So a wild goose chase for people that think they have purpose in life.

And you get to transact in the digital asset you want.

Unfortunately if that is on the ethereum blockchain then you cant send additional transactions while over tor.

The desired use case: Anonymously funding a subspace of addresses using Monero (unstable value), receiving DAI and Ether.

Still over Tor, using the DAI (stable value) to donate to scihub. Using ether for transaction fees.

Downloading literature from scihub over tor. (Not using bittorrent)

BONUS: we can also get rid of ether transaction fees now, if the dai was issued directly on a layer2 system like zksync.

So there is a vibrant ecosystem that simply cant broadcast transactions over tor right now. Its a udp issue. Not irreconcilable, people just havent done it in the node software.

Re:Blackballed by PayPal, Sci-Hub switches to Bitcoin by mirimir on Friday June 26, 2020 @12:33AM (#23648748)
I wouldn't want my ISP-assigned IP address to be associated with my Monero transactions. And VPNs, even nested VPN chains, provide far less anonymity than Tor.

Edit: s/Bitcoin/Monero/g