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Re:Amazon Honeycode – build web and mobile apps without writ... by rimliu on Thursday June 25, 2020 @09:46AM (#23640674)
There are enough bariers in the earlier steps for those barriers to entry with programming not to matter.

   1. Understand the problem
   2. Break the problem into subproblems. Goto 1 till subroblems
      are small enought to be tackled.
   3. Develop the algorithms for each of the subroblems you got
      after step 2. No handwaving allowed. 
   4. Implement the algorithms.
I'd say for majority it ends around the step 2. Programming only matters at step 4.
Re:Amazon Honeycode – build web and mobile apps without writ... by sharker8 on Thursday June 25, 2020 @11:14AM (#23641659)
I think you are doing software engineering at step 2 as well (base case and build recursion for example). The reality is, CS skills are useful even in low and no code scenarios.