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Re:Those who exercise free speech should also defend it even... by cousin_it on Thursday June 25, 2020 @03:38AM (#23637882)
We could remove downvotes. They had three purposes:

1) Crowdsourced moderation. Well, everyone is using manual moderation anyway.

2) Silencing others. This is a misfeature.

3) Finding the best content. Upvotes are enough for that.

That said, I'm not sure this will reduce groupthink. Twitter has no downvotes and plenty of groupthink.

Re:Those who exercise free speech should also defend it even... by lazyjones on Thursday June 25, 2020 @07:51AM (#23639551)
In the forum I was working on, downvotes were limited per 24h, so people eventually saved them for really bad / offensive / spam comments instead of punishing people for their opinions (except a few who even wrote scripts to downvote certain people systematically...).

The problem is in my opinion that once people begin to act like this, their victims behave like this also. If you get punished for arguing against somebody, you learn to stop arguing and just downvote that person instead. It's a chain reaction.

Re:Those who exercise free speech should also defend it even... by ratww on Thursday June 25, 2020 @08:15AM (#23639736)
> In the forum I was working on, downvotes were limited per 24h

I believe this is also true for Hacker News.

Re:Those who exercise free speech should also defend it even... by jessaustin on Thursday June 25, 2020 @08:26AM (#23639852)
If so, it must be a sort of "hell" downvote, which has no effect even though the UI seems to indicate that it does... I don't think this would change behavior as described above.
Re:Those who exercise free speech should also defend it even... by lightgreen on Thursday June 25, 2020 @04:53AM (#23638395)
There could be two kinds of downvotes: * "I disagree" downvote * "This comment has no value" downvote

First downvote can be used for arguments like "let's increase taxes to the rich because, this way we can build more fair society, European countries have shown that high taxes..."

Second downvote can be used for comments like "Let's tax these rich bastards".

I want to also mention reddit voting system which I kinda like: they have downvoting, but they also have a sorting by "controvervial": top comments are the comments with high number of both upvotes and downvotes, such comments really help to see the full spectre of opinions in discussions, while the universally true and not interesting comments everyone agrees with like "we should not kill people", are below controversial comments.

Re:Those who exercise free speech should also defend it even... by CM30 on Friday June 26, 2020 @05:07AM (#23650085)
The ideal solution is definitely to split ratings, both for upvotes and downvotes. Slashdot did this, and quite a few forum scripts have plugins for it, where you can rate posts based on things like whether you agree/disagree with them, if they're funny or informative, if they're spam/low quality etc.

Having it work that way would significantly discourage using upvotes and downvotes as agree/disagree buttons, and make it much clearer what the community thinks of any particular post or piece of content.