How'd that work out with the Trump election and the massive resurgence of outright racism and sexism? How far does one's subjective view of the world around them have to diverge from reality before they stop and think, huh, maybe this doesn't work at all. Silencing dissenting views has never worked in history. Not once. It just increases internal societal pressure until it reaches a critical point and boils over, usually in a physically violent upturn.
> Silencing dissenting views has never worked in history
There may be a grain of truth to that, but I don't think a historian, even one who agreed with its thrust, would feel comfortable with it as a blanket statement.I don't really want to have this sort of heated debate this evening. Sorry.
You can't. There aren't any. It always blows back. America is just failing to learn from a lesson that's been taught to various empires for millennia.
It worked majority of the time. It typically stopped to work only when power to be ceased to have power.
Both nazism and communism were extremely successful in this. The monarchies did this successfully for very very long time. It ceased to work only when their lost power for unrelated reasons. Saudi Arabia is going strong.
The suppression of nazi ideology post WWII did not lead to blow back either.
Which is to say it has never worked. Because all power structures eventually collapse and yet the ideologies they tried to suppress remain and rise again. And sometimes, it's actually the resurgence of those suppressed ideologies that destroys the established power structures. As is the case in the USA right now.
> The suppression of nazi ideology post WWII did not lead to blow back either.
You can't be serious.
https://www.ft.com/content/dcd4aee8-936f-11e9-aea1-2b1d33ac3...
That being said, Nazi Germany did not lost because of internally suppressed people raising, they lost because foreign forces won on battle field. They were quite successful in keeping control.
> You can't be serious.
I am serious. There is nothing to suggest that contemporary German issues have anything to do with post WWII suppression of Nazism. They don't.
I’m still convinced that it will eventually implode. But it hasn’t yet, and I may well be wrong.
That's throwing out the baby with the bathwater. If everytime someone tries to blow the whistle on something, they are called a conspiracy theorist and allowed to be censored, you are basically giving the people in charge infinite power and zero accountability.
I really don't think it does, it just drives them to spaces where you don't personally see them and these spaces typically reinforce and strengthen their beliefs because they go unchallenged there. It also makes it easier to suck in others because those beliefs aren't being discovered in an open forum where they can be challenged. There's also a lot of cross pollination, the 5g nutters for instance have been driven from (or never part of) mainstream circles, so now their discussing things in their own spaces with other craziness thrown in, it will get mixed in with other craziness like being a jewish conspiracy to take over the world or some rubbish.
The internet gave us a brief period where every groups craziness was open for everyone else to see, now we're reverting to make things were like before the internet.