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Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by random314 on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @12:20AM (#23624053)
> he long-term goal in Iraq/Afghanistan was "peaceful muslim-majority western-values democracies in the middle east".

This has never been the goal of the United states

Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by wahern on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @12:32AM (#23624114)
I guess it depends on who (if any person or group in particular) we recognize as setting U.S. policy, but if it's the President then I think you're wrong: https://foreignpolicy.com/2010/11/17/bush-on-nation-building... Here's the full speech quoted early in that article: https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/20...
Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by random314 on Thursday June 25, 2020 @02:55PM (#23644160)
There is a whole lot of difference between actions and words.

US Presidents typically have a lot of problems with democracies/democratic movements in Iran, Venezuela, Haiti, Egypt etc but very much liked the dictatorships in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Chile, Brazil, El Salvador.

I judge governments and people by their actions and not their words.