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Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by newacct583 on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @09:21PM (#23622807)
> Could it be the people getting the virus now are less likely to end up in the hospital so that number won't keep going up to the point of causing trouble?

It could. Or it could be simply getting out of control (though specifically California is in much less trouble than Texas, Florida or especially Arizona at the moment). The point is that (1) it's fundamentally impossible to tell the difference until the bodies are counted and (2) the boundary between "well under capacity, we're fine" and "well over capacity, tens of thousands needlessly dead" represents just a week or two of growth.

We don't have time to wait and see, we need an answer now. And we can't get it until the demographics is done postmortem. So what is supposed to happen is that we all behave conservatively until the outbreak shrinks to the point where it can be contained via contact tracing.

And... that almost worked. It worked in Asia and Europe, It almost worked here, at least in the hardest hit areas with the early outbreaks. But... it didn't take. Half the population decided they didn't need to bother with this stuff (largely because of reasoning like yours) and walked back into enclosed indoor spaces.

And now we're right back where we were in March. Effectively no progress. While the rest of the industrialized world is finishing this off and coming back to life, we're having to talk about new lockdowns. It's so deeply frustrating.

Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by SpicyLemonZest on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @09:39PM (#23622935)
You have a mistaken perception of what the rest of the industrialized world is doing. South Korea is talking about new lockdowns, China has imposed them, and much of Europe still hasn't really opened up. Only a very few countries believe they're "finishing this off".
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Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by SpicyLemonZest on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @01:33AM (#23624442)
We gave it up because Americans didn't want to implement such painful measures. You can call it MAGA, but people on the left were just as happy to start attending and promoting mass gatherings once they had a good reason, and the article's example of California is hardly Trump country.
Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by newacct583 on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @09:16AM (#23627474)
So... the current out of control outbreaks are less painful? You genuinely believe that? And CA, while it does have a growing outbreak, is in some sense the exception that proves the rule. Here are the 10 worst states right now per capita. California is at the bottom of the list, and is the only one you'll see there with a democratic governor.

https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=states...

Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by SpicyLemonZest on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @10:02AM (#23627970)
I don't believe it, but I think it's clear that a lot of people do - otherwise they wouldn't be willing to attend large events or pack into crowded bars. (And I'm biased, since I never really liked mass gatherings in the first place.)