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Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by austhrow743 on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @08:55PM (#23622612)
If you don't set achievable goals then you just waste a lot of resources trying to achieve them.
Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by mehrdadn on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @08:57PM (#23622630)
Why is this not achievable? New York pulled it off...
Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by austhrow743 on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @09:11PM (#23622726)
Seems to be politicised. You have a significant portion of the country treating not wearing masks or social distancing as a political statement.

I'm not saying it's not achievable. Just that you need to evaluate if it is achievable before you focus on it and it certainly doesn't seem like its "obvious" that it is to me.

Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by zaroth on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @12:16AM (#23624032)
New York pulled what off? The highest cases per capita of anywhere in the US, bad policy allowing it to ravage their nursing homes.

Not surprising after COVID burned through their population (quarantine or not) the case numbers have subsided. If anything NYC demonstrates that quarantine was entirely ineffective, and that the biggest mistake was not focusing on protecting the people actually at risk.

The most interesting takeaway from COVID is that “both sides” were right. It is much more deadly than an average flu (for the elderly) and also much less deadly than the average flu (for those under 50).

Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by dataflow on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @01:37AM (#23624462)
> Not surprising after COVID burned through their population (quarantine or not) the case numbers have subsided. If anything NYC demonstrates that quarantine was entirely ineffective, and that the biggest mistake was not focusing on protecting the people actually at risk.

Are you serious? How do you even come up with misinformation like this and not even bother to back anything up with any sources? How do you seriously look at the case charts and pretend like going from 10k cases/day to 500 cases/day was an inevitable outcome resulting from burning through nursing homes? It would be funny if it weren't completely insulting to their herculean efforts in containing everything when so much of the rest of the country is going in the opposite direction. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/new-york-coronav...

Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by zaroth on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @02:34AM (#23624777)
Unfortunately you seem to have misread what I wrote.

1) NY has the highest cases per capita and death rate per capita in the country. [1] [2] This is what I mean by burned through their population. Serology estimates about 20% of NYC population was infected. [3]

2) NY’s policy blunder in shipping COVID positive patients into nursing homes is well documented. [4]

#2 did not lead to #1, nor did I claim it did.

Their “herculean efforts” to contain COVID notwithstanding, NY is in the process of phased reopening, just like pretty much everyone else.

[1] - https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109004/coronavirus-covi...

[2] - https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109004/coronavirus-covi...

[3] - https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/amid-ongoing-covid-19-pande...

[4] - https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/ap-count-4300-virus-...

Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by deelowe on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @01:22AM (#23624388)
You can't shut the entire country down for months on end. People will starve. No other solution has proven effective enough to get below 1.