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Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by SomeoneFromCA on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @03:30PM (#23619039)
Never understood the point of herd immunity through deliberate infection with a potentially deadly disorder. I mean what the point of getting sick now, instead of later. I can kinda get a point that second could be potentially deadlier, but what if it never happens? SARS-CoV from 2003 never gave a second wave.
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Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by tunesmith on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @05:37PM (#23620643)
A lot of people argue that SARS-CoV-2 is more contagious and less fatal than first thought, without realizing that that means that herd immunity is even more difficult to achieve. The more contagious a virus is, the harder it is to achieve herd immunity.
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Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by ccktlmazeltov on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @03:49PM (#23619311)
> but what if it never happens

The problem is that if covid doesn't kill you, stopping the economy will (or at least will make it worse for a large part of the population).

There might be a right trade-off of making heavy use of masks and preventative measures, but this is not currently the implied strategy of the government (as masks are not really enforced).

The difference with SARS-CoV-1 from 2002-2004 was that symptoms were much more aggressive and quick, and thus it was much more easy to trace and quarantine people. With the current one we have a mix of issues: lots of asymptomatic people or symptoms take time to develop.

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Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by SomeoneFromCA on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @04:03PM (#23619508)
Still do not understand the point of "herd immunity" Swedish way. Pointless to me. What it is supposed to protect from? From the disease you are supposed to get sick with to acquire that immunity at first place?
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Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by matz1 on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @05:36PM (#23620636)
Its to avoid economic shutdown. Its to protect people from economic disaster.
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Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by SomeoneFromCA on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @07:57AM (#23626843)
Why would you call it, hypocritically herd immunity then? It should be called sacrifice of weak, that woul be honest. Anyways, Sweden did not fare economically any better than Austria, Norway or New Zealand.
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Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by matz1 on Thursday June 25, 2020 @08:38AM (#23639958)
Who said anything about sacrificing the weak?
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Re:California sets Covid-19 daily record, Bay Area cumulativ... by ccktlmazeltov on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @02:34PM (#23632002)
herd immunity is not about everyone catching it, it's about enough people catching it and getting immune, that the virus can't spread anymore.
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