My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how NYPD impunity works

Re:My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how ... by jakelazaroff on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @02:36PM (#23618253)

Not sure what "walking catalogue of locally available illicit substances" is a reference to, as that describes none of the recent police murders AFAIK.

Also FYI, in the case of Rayshard Brooks (the victim who took the officer's Taser), the District Attorney said that the Taser "had already been fired twice and was thus empty and no longer a threat". https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-nw-atlanta-ra...

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Re:My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how ... by treis on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @03:03PM (#23618621)

That's misleading to the point of lying. The "already" here means the split second between Brooks firing it at the officer and the officer shooting him.

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Re:My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how ... by vertex-four on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @08:51PM (#23622575)

I’ll point out, by the way, that a taser is one of these “non-lethal” weapons with which we should be fine with cops firing at groups of protesters indiscriminately. But apparently when someone uses one against a cop it’s worth the immediate death penalty. I wonder what’d happen if a protester shot a cop with a rubber bullet?

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Re:My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how ... by jakelazaroff on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @03:20PM (#23618891)

Split second? The officer hadn't even drawn his gun when Brooks fired the Taser. He made the decision to draw his gun in the first place already knowing that the Taser Brooks held was depleted.

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Re:My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how ... by treis on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @03:36PM (#23619143)

It's on video and that's clearly not true:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnHecVdUysQ

The officer starts reaching for his gun between seconds 4 and 5, Brooks fires the tazer in second 5 and then is shot at the end of second 6.

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Re:My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how ... by jakelazaroff on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @04:31PM (#23619824)

Are you serious? It's clearly true. The officer's gun remains in its holster until after Brooks fires the Taser — you can tell because his right arm is still vertical. The NYT has a good breakdown: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/14/us/videos-rayshard-brooks...

And regardless, let's not move the goalposts to consider only the time after Brooks fired the Taser. After all, it's not like that was the first opportunity the officer had to calculate how many shots it had left.

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Re:My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how ... by treis on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @04:48PM (#23620046)

You said:

>He made the decision to draw his gun in the first place already knowing

Which is different from the gun being drawn. You can clearly see the officer pass his tazer from his right to left hand and then reach for his gun prior to the tazer shot.

>And regardless, it's not like the moment that Brooks fired the Taser was the first opportunity the officer had to calculate how many shots it had left.

Having a second potentially valid argument doesn't change the accuracy of the one made.

>The NYTimes has a good breakdown: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/14/us/videos-rayshard-brooks....

Perhaps you should read it again since they agree with me:

>In seconds, Officer Rolfe passes his Taser from his right hand to his left hand, and reaches for his handgun.

>While being chased, and in full stride, Mr. Brooks looks behind him, points the Taser

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Re:My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how ... by jakelazaroff on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @11:59PM (#23623934)

> You can clearly see the officer pass his tazer from his right to left hand and then reach for his gun prior to the tazer shot.

Reaching for a holstered handgun and deciding to draw it are two separate things.

> Having a second potentially valid argument doesn't change the accuracy of the one made.

I'm making exactly one argument: the officer who killed Rayshard Brooks did so knowing that the Taser in his hand was useless. You've yet to offer any evidence to the contrary.

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