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Re:Andrew Ng: The suspension of H1B is bad for the US and ba... by Daishiman on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @12:03PM (#23615754)
This is really not true. If you do hiring in tech, just finding qualified candidates is a long, arduous process way before even talking about compensation.

There's a hell of a lot of problems with hiring practices worldwide, but qualified software engineers are not abundant.

Re:Andrew Ng: The suspension of H1B is bad for the US and ba... by geebee on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @05:26PM (#23620525)
"If compensation were higher, qualified software engineers would be more abundant."

Supply and demand isn't just about what's out there right now, it's about elasticity of both curves. When prices rise, supply increases, and demand decreases.

What you've said indicates that prices are so low that demand is very high, and supply is very low.

Yes, it does take a while, in some fields, for supply to ramp up - but bidding wars for the existing supply are part of the mechanism that increases the prices and signals to people with choice that software engineering (as opposed to, say, finance or corporate law) is the way to go.

There's a pretty strong case to be made the the H1B is specifically designed to create a population of software engineers who are not allowed to respond to market signals that would cause them to stop being software engineers in order to do something else (or perhaps not become a software engineer in the first place).

So back the the original question - compensation. What compensation package were you offering to compete for those rare and highly valuable software engineers you wanted to hire?

Re:Andrew Ng: The suspension of H1B is bad for the US and ba... by pandaman on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @02:50AM (#23624861)
>way before even talking about compensation.

Is not this the problem? The vast majority of vacancies I see as well as recruiters offers do not have salary. So I just ignore them. This is also why FAANG has no problem getting candidates and can haze them to their heart's content. Even though they do not list salary too, people have high expectations and apply in huge numbers.