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Re:The Importance of India by vijaybritto on Monday June 22, 2020 @01:07PM (#23602692)
This. This is so true.

India can never be a superpower until we are born inequal at birth!

There will be growth only in a society which has some sort of equality.

Anyone can look at the amount of upper castes in positions of power, land ownership share and executive positions in the country. You have to compare it with the population distribution among castes and you'll see the inequality immediately.

The main problem here is that it's not even in the mainstream public discourse cause the narrative is always set by the upper castes.

People were trending black lives matter as if they care about humanity. It was so hypocritical!

This won't stop unless caste is uprooted from the society.

Re:The Importance of India by setum on Monday June 22, 2020 @02:03PM (#23603496)
What is the distribution of land ownership based in caste, any citation?

> The main problem here is that it's not even in the mainstream public discourse cause the narrative is always set by the upper castes.

mainstream public discourse is set by whoever can set it, it is free for all. In my understanding it is generally the left leaning literate class, talking for suppressed classes. True, most of them have descended from upper-caste, but have since devowed their caste and have become caste-agnostic.

> This won't stop unless caste is uprooted from the society.

Caste is largely getting uprooted from society, I don't see this bringing social equality. In truth, now there is a upper-caste among lower-case -- the early beneficiaries of the reservation with whom others in the lower caste can't compete.

Re:The Importance of India by vijaybritto on Monday June 22, 2020 @02:15PM (#23603632)
> mainstream public discourse is set by whoever can set it, it is free for all

No, its not. The ones with social power only will be able to set the narrative in any society.

>Caste is largely getting uprooted from society, I don't see this bringing social equality.

This is not true. The system stays the same. We are in a modernised casteist society

>In truth, now there is a upper-caste among lower-case -- the early beneficiaries of the reservation with whom others in the lower caste can't compete.

The point of reservation is for representation. Not for competence or anything else. Again this is a classic upper caste narrative that is pushed repeatedly. Its not an economic upliftment program. Its only for representation.

Re:The Importance of India by joekunin on Monday June 22, 2020 @01:20PM (#23602866)
I wonder if this was also part of the reason Buddhism didn't become the predominant belief system in India.
Re:The Importance of India by sohamsankaran on Monday June 22, 2020 @01:24PM (#23602923)
Re:The Importance of India by setum on Monday June 22, 2020 @02:14PM (#23603618)
Buddhism was prominent in India till Muslim invaders came and conquered India. Buddhist Monastery were sitting ducks for them, Buddhism was eliminated in the first wave of Islamic invaders.

Of-course there were struggles with others before that, such as Brahmins, but those were political struggles, not existential. Many times Buddhists gained the favor of Kings, other times Brahmins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Buddhists

Re:The Importance of India by vijaybritto on Monday June 22, 2020 @01:38PM (#23603142)
Yes, Buddhism cannot be tolerated by Brahmanism. Its simply outside the caste system that removes power from Brahmins.

PS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Buddhists

EDIT: https://medium.com/@ArainGang/hindu-persecution-of-buddhists...

Re:The Importance of India by setum on Monday June 22, 2020 @02:17PM (#23603658)
Did you even read it. There were struggles with Brahmins, but those were political struggles, not existential.

Muslim invaders eliminated them forever from India. Read this section: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Buddhists#Perse...