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Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by kiliantics on Saturday June 20, 2020 @05:13PM (#23587346)
What if they moved to Japan because of an opportunity provided by a Japanese organisation that needed their skills, and then they spent enough time there that they had buy in to the community and were a recognised member in it and were valued by that community?

I don't think this is too hard to imagine applying to a person living long term in Japan and definitely not hard to imagine in the US, where there are no true "Americans" in the first place, apart from maybe the indigenous peoples.

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Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by gorbachev15 on Saturday June 20, 2020 @07:38PM (#23588376)
If I lived there a long time, I still wouldn't be Japanese. Look, it's definitely an emotionally charged issue the longer someone has been in a place, but that doesn't change the basic facts. We can discuss the merits all day long but not the legitimacy of the government to decide who can and cannot stay.

For the purposes of this debate, "Americans" means citizens and those that can vote, the ones to whom the government answers.

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Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by ChristianBundy on Monday June 22, 2020 @12:07PM (#23601795)
> We can discuss the merits all day long but not the legitimacy of the government to decide who can and cannot stay.

Why can't we discuss the legitimacy of the government?

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