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Re:Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of... by crazygringo on Saturday June 20, 2020 @04:10PM (#23586835)
Sorry but you're just completely factually wrong.

Potatoes, rice and bananas are whole-food, plant based, and are pretty much the highest carb you can go. And plants without starches and sugars simply don't have many calories at all. You can't survive on broccoli alone.

If you're doing low-carb and getting the calories you need, there's no physically possibly way to get those calories except through protein and fat -- they're literally the only other 2 macronutrients.

So yes, low carb always means lots of meat, cheese and/or fat. Or else you'd basically just be fasting.

Re:Low carb diet leads to “clinical remission” in 3 cases of... by chillwaves on Saturday June 20, 2020 @04:24PM (#23586957)
The way you frame the third choice as "and/or fat" is disingenuous and undermines the whole comment.

Yes, vegetables are less calories dense. That doesn't mean meat/cheese/bacon have to be eaten. Just an easy example, avocado's are extremely calorie dense, and yes this means fat.

The issue I have is that you just categorize meat, cheese and fat together as if the only way to get fat is via those items, or as if fat itself were unhealthy. The second is just a myth, the first is a myth the person you are responding to is directly opposing.

It's not a great surprise that a diet restricting one of the three food macros will lean heavily on the other two groups.