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Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by pmoriarty on Saturday June 20, 2020 @03:16PM (#23586199)
"What if, instead of bowing to corporate greed which cares not a bit for our country or our people, we actually invested in our own population and trained them to do the jobs H1-B workers currently do."

Who's this "our people" you're talking about?

As a US citizen, I consider every person in the world as part of my people, and I don't begrudge any individual coming and working or training in the US.

The more people, from whichever country, have access to good education and good jobs, the better.

Good education and jobs should not be reserved for people who happen to live or be born in a particular place, be descended from particular people, nor just those who managed to get certain bureaucratic paperwork.

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Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by hcurtiss on Saturday June 20, 2020 @03:20PM (#23586258)
All else being equal, I think most people prioritize their own country and countrymen over others', and would not sacrifice their own countrymen to benefit others'. You may not share this view, but I think most people do. Most people consider themselves a part of a national team, and they feel some loyalty to their teammates.
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Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by conanbatt on Saturday June 20, 2020 @03:28PM (#23586370)
That doesn't explain having imports of any kind.
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Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by KingTen on Saturday June 20, 2020 @03:32PM (#23586402)
Free trade reduces costs for people. I’d agree that things have gotten more complicated than that though in the transition to a service based economy.
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Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by conanbatt on Saturday June 20, 2020 @06:51PM (#23588101)
What's the difference between working on the hardware of a computer or the software that it makes sense to have one outside of the US and another one inside?
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Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by tallon on Saturday June 20, 2020 @03:31PM (#23586401)
You can take the high approach and give up your job for someone else, then. Are you going to welcome strangers into your family and your home as well? Resources are limited, that is a fact. If you've never experienced that, consider yourself very lucky and privileged, and work to deserve that good fortune and privilege.
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Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by gorbachev15 on Saturday June 20, 2020 @03:31PM (#23586394)
But we're not talking about your decision or his, we're talking about the decision made by the government whose literal job description is to make rules for this country alone!
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Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by WanderPanda on Saturday June 20, 2020 @03:25PM (#23586326)
This the opposite of what I believe has made the us great. Look at all the Elon Musks. High skilled immigration can never harm your country. It can give competition to some people who feel entitled to their high salary, though.
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Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by KingTen on Saturday June 20, 2020 @03:33PM (#23586421)
I def agree that highly skilled immigrants are important to America. I disagree wholeheartedly with the concept of open borders though. It’s too idealistic and in practice would cripple America.
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Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by KingTen on Saturday June 20, 2020 @03:28PM (#23586361)
There’s plenty of people living in poverty in America, along with the multitude of other major problems right now. I’m not a closed border person, we need immigrants. But we don’t have the resources to help every single person who wants to come here. It’s not discrimination, that’s a terrible argument. It’s a government helping its people.
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