Re:Why Apple ditched PowerPC, and what it says about Apple d...
by hannibalhorn on Saturday June 20, 2020 @10:51AM
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The article posted the other day had benchmarks for the Apple chips vs some Intel chips, they seem to be much more competitive than I'd have ever guessed: https://stratechery.com/2020/apple-arm-and-intel/?href=
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Re:Why Apple ditched PowerPC, and what it says about Apple d...
by AnthonyMouse on Saturday June 20, 2020 @12:06PM
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Note that that is SPEC, which is a synthetic benchmark that chip makers have been playing games with forever because it's quite sensitive to compiler optimizations. Much the same issue with browser benchmarks when you're using Apple's browser engine on Apple's chips -- expect them to have specific optimizations for the code in common benchmarks.
I'd really like to see some independent benchmarks here. It'll be interesting if they actually release a macOS device and then we can see how it runs GIMP and 7-zip and Firefox etc.
Re:Why Apple ditched PowerPC, and what it says about Apple d...
by Someone on Saturday June 20, 2020 @12:19PM
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You can blame SPEC for lots of things (the most important one being that it may not be relevant for your workload), but I don’t think you can blame it for not being an independent benchmark. It’s made by a non-profit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Performance_Evaluatio...)
Yes, companies can try to influence the definitions of new SPEC benchmarks to make their CPUs look good and they also may spend time tweaking their compilers to look good on it, but it’s not that they write those benchmarks unopposed by representatives of other companies.
Re:Why Apple ditched PowerPC, and what it says about Apple d...
by AnthonyMouse on Saturday June 20, 2020 @03:16PM
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The SPEC benchmark code is rather short and synthetic. The vendors then write compiler "improvements" which are specifically designed for optimizing that exact benchmark code for their processors. It often causes the results to be unrepresentative of performance on general purpose code which nobody is doing that for.
Re:Why Apple ditched PowerPC, and what it says about Apple d...
by spacedcowboy on Saturday June 20, 2020 @11:52AM
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And that competitiveness is without taking into account the different operating environments.
The power envelope afforded to the intel chip is dramatically larger than that of the Apple chip. Apple is fighting with one arm tied behind its back, here, it’ll be truly interesting to see what they can do on a level playing field