Apple Rejects Appeal of Email App That Blasted Store Rules

Re:Apple Rejects Appeal of Email App That Blasted Store Rules by Shank on Thursday June 18, 2020 @08:52PM (#23569866)

I think we as a developer community should be using this momentum as much as we can. It's just economics: being able to publish apps on the app store and not having to take a 30% revenue hit would change the calculus for many indie and small shop developers. 30% can push many hobby apps into full time ventures for people. How many better apps and happier developers would we get if this were the case?

I'm glad that DHH has a loud voice, but Basecamp has a lot of developers and I'm sure that when push comes to shove, someone will fold. I doubt it will apply to everyone, though. It would even be easy for Apple to grant an exception and let Hey continue (much easier than changing the policy for everyone).

Is there any reason why we, as a community, shouldn't push as hard as we can here?

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Re:Apple Rejects Appeal of Email App That Blasted Store Rules by google234123 on Thursday June 18, 2020 @09:01PM (#23569932)

Are you aware of how much Steam takes? Or the Microsoft Store, or Walmart...

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Re:Apple Rejects Appeal of Email App That Blasted Store Rules by jfim on Thursday June 18, 2020 @09:20PM (#23570051)

Steam: 30% for the first 10M in sales, 25% for 10M-50M, 20% for sales above 50M

Windows Store: 15% or 30%, depending on the product/platform

Epic Store: 12%

Amazon app store: 30% in most cases

Play Store: 30%

Does Walmart actually sell apps?

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Re:Apple Rejects Appeal of Email App That Blasted Store Rules by Terretta on Saturday June 20, 2020 @06:43PM (#23588048)

Apple recurring: 30% year one, 15% years two and beyond

Of my dozens and dozens of app subscriptions, all are only 15% to Apple.

And also, god help me as a consumer if I had to manage those individually by going to dozens and dozens of different places.

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Re:Apple Rejects Appeal of Email App That Blasted Store Rules by dmix on Thursday June 18, 2020 @09:13PM (#23570009)

Walmart et al makes a significant percentage of their money selling positions on the shelf and in-store promotions. The actual margins on product sales aren't nearly as high as a premium products placed within good eye-range at high trafficked parts of the store. Which are almost entirely major global brands.

One way things are 'free' on the internet or at least cheap is by letting the top 10% of products pay extra in a win-win sort of situation, largely subsidizing the wider 90%+.

I think what we're seeing here is Apple spotting a major money maker and saying you're not getting a free pass anymore and have pay like one of the big boys.

That, or Apple has to change their model somehow, which I think would be largely unattractive to their business interests and its worked fine so far with everyone else.

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