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Re:536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018) by ClumsyPilot on Thursday June 18, 2020 @08:51PM (#23569865)
This is a xomolete misinterpretation of today's economic and resource situation. The real tragedy is that all this is a conpletely unneccesary wanton destruction. Thrre is no coke, it serves no purpose.

Pick amy product on a supermarket shelf or on Amazon, and you wil find that raw materials account for maybe 20% of its final price tops. They are called commodities for a reason, and its production of those raw materials that does the lions share of pollution. You could replace all manufacturing with a combonation of nuclear power and reneables, and youd hardly change the price of the final product.

Re:536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018) by perl4ever on Thursday June 18, 2020 @11:19PM (#23570611)
It's often said that most of the (developed world) economy depends on consumers. Rich people tend to have a greater proportion of financial assets compared to consumption. When people criticize the rich, it's pretty standard to say they're stingy, they hoard wealth etc. Conversely when the rich consume, they're at least "creating jobs".

So that seems to imply to me that ordinary people (in the rich countries) shouldn't be underestimated from an environmental perspective, and because our morality is pro-consumer it reinforces waste. I don't think that's brainwashing by the rich, I think that's just how people are, in Western society at least.

Re:536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018) by someguyorother on Friday June 19, 2020 @11:46AM (#23575602)
Sure, economic equality will lead to more direct consumption than inequality, all else equal. That said, I'd rather have equality plus appropriate Pigouvian taxation than have to rely on inequality to do the environmental rationing for us.

A more equal society would probably have a greater chance of enacting Pigouvian taxes anyway because political power and economic power would be less intertwined.

Re:536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018) by s1artibartfast on Friday June 19, 2020 @01:57PM (#23577084)
As you point out, cost has very little to do with the bulk consumption of natural materials, and seems tangential to the topic of discussion.
Re:536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018) by aksss on Thursday June 18, 2020 @09:29PM (#23570108)
There is no spoon?