Re:The Motherfucking Manifesto For Programming, Motherfuckers
by MartinCron on Tuesday March 22, 2011 @04:06PM
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That's the thing, Scrum basically assumes that all software teams are so dysfunctional that they won't talk to each other unless and until everyone is watching.
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Re:The Motherfucking Manifesto For Programming, Motherfuckers
by StrawberryFrog on Tuesday March 22, 2011 @04:22PM
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Scrum! It teaches bad teams good habits!
Nothing in scrum stops you talking to anyone at any time. The stand-up makes sure that you have to say a few words to the whole team and other interested parties, daily.
I like to read criticisms of scrum, when they're not straw-man ones.
Re:The Motherfucking Manifesto For Programming, Motherfuckers
by kelnos on Tuesday March 22, 2011 @05:37PM
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How was the parent a straw-man? He suggested that teams that can't talk to each other without the prodding of Scrum are dysfunctional (which I happen to agree with). That's not even necessarily a criticism of Scrum, it just points out that Scrum can be good for teams that, as you say, have bad habits.
Re:The Motherfucking Manifesto For Programming, Motherfuckers
by MartinCron on Tuesday March 22, 2011 @08:32PM
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I didn't mean it as a straw-man criticism, just an observation that scrum is very rigid and prescriptive; it's all about the what and the how instead the why.
I'm a big believer in trying to persuade people to keep feedback loops short, make teams small and cross-functional, and to design/code/test/ship in the smallest increments possible. At this point, calling an approach agile/scrum/xp carries a lot of baggage.
If people don't get the why (e.g. the team isn't small and cross-functional, and people aren't working on tiny increments) it kind of doesn't matter if you get everyone in the room at the same time every day.