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Re:Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, includi... by toomuchtodo on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @09:00PM (#23558678)
Would they use Jitsi if it was fully managed for them and free?
Re:Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, includi... by specialist on Friday June 19, 2020 @04:05PM (#23578362)
Apologies: rereading I realize you asked a question; I thought you were making a recommendation.

I don't know anything about Jitsi. Will research. Thanks.

At the start of the pandemic, my friend at this particular court was tasked with figuring something out. Initial plan was choose a web cam and software combo for everyone to use. And then they'd be futzing with Windows boxes of unknown provenance, trying to do remote tech support, etc. Whose got time for all that? For instance, they told me one of the new Logitech web cams they tried doesn't have Windows 10 drivers.

I recommended they just a cheap iPad for each location, participant. Create iCloud account for each device. Use FaceTime. Buy mounts or tripods as needed.

I haven't heard back what they finally decided.

FWIW, I since learned they were also having uninvited people join their confidential sessions, just like the naked guy showing up for online classes. Such a mess.

Re:Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, includi... by skinnymuch on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @09:24PM (#23558810)
How many people want to deal with an inferior product? I used Jitsi for over a year. There’s no deal breaker. But so many little or medium issues with how inferior it is to Zoom. It’s a hard ask (outside specific vocal minorities online)
Re:Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, includi... by themacguffinman on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @11:34PM (#23559557)
Governments deal with inferior products all the time. At least in this case, there's a good reason to do so. The security of court systems would surely be higher priority than "my grandma couldn't install Jitsi" if they were pushed to choose.
Re:Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, includi... by skinnymuch on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @02:27PM (#23631903)
Outside of court systems and some or a lot of government stuff, what use is there for inferior products vs Zoom? I don’t think China or whoever else is the boogeyman right now is going to care what mid level execs at most companies are talking about.
Re:Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, includi... by themacguffinman on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @05:20PM (#23634005)
Not sure why you're implying that security in the private sector is useless. China has been known to hack and infiltrate private companies. Fun fact: this is why Google left China in the first place. You think China doesn't care what employees are discussing at Intel or AMD? You think they're not interested in worming their way into Apple's messaging systems to identify and monitor dissidents?

You think the backdoors that Zoom are likely creating for the Chinese government won't ever be found and used by malicious hackers?

You really think the Chinese-American human rights activists whose Zoom accounts were identified and banned from a private video call with Chinese-based allies and friends and family are thinking "what use is there for inferior products?"

Oh well, we live in free countries. You're free to open your company and possibly your Chinese colleagues/friends to China or whoever else is the boogeyman right now.