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Re:Rents are dropping across the US by toomuchtodo on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @04:23PM (#23556270)
> If you get too small though you go back to everything being 45 min drive away again like being in the suburbs of a city which is not at all sustainable.

This is where I live. I love it. I encourage others to consider it unsustainable.

Re:Rents are dropping across the US by renewiltord on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @04:36PM (#23556426)
That's the thing with unsustainability, dude. No individual cares. It's about the aggregate.
Re:Rents are dropping across the US by toomuchtodo on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @04:38PM (#23556440)
I'm aware. Renewables and electric cars are on a tear. Don't force density when you can use technology instead to lower your impact. It's clear the city is too expensive for many, and folks are going to filter out of urban cores until a density equilibrium is reached.

Do you care if I live in the middle of nowhere in the mountains if all of my power is clean solar, our cars are electric, I work from home, and pay for carbon offsets for anything I need shipped to the home (until UPS, Fedex, and USPS electrify)? Personally, I'll pay whatever it costs to not have a neighbor within a 15 minute walk of my property, but still have national parks within a 30 minutes drive.

Re:Rents are dropping across the US by renewiltord on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @04:42PM (#23556482)
I don't care because I like to live like that myself for other reasons (city people like authoritarianism too much for me). I don't even care that you live like that now.

That doesn't change the sustainability argument.

Re:Rents are dropping across the US by selectodude on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @05:47PM (#23557168)
We don’t have enough lithium on the planet for everybody to have their own electric car. Just because something is on paper sustainable, doesn’t make it actually sustainable.
Re:Rents are dropping across the US by imtringued on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @06:44PM (#23557693)
Lithium is absurdly abundant. It can be recycled. Lithium concentrations in electrolytes are constantly being lowered. Finally it is possible to manufacture batteries without cobalt. Cobalt is a bigger problem than lithium because most production facilities extract cobalt as a byproduct of other mining activities. Dedicated cobalt mines are possible but it would result in higher costs.
Re:Rents are dropping across the US by coryrc on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @06:20PM (#23557502)
That's wildly incorrect. Proven reserves of lithium only are a few decades of consumption, because why would you keep looking and measuring now when you already have so much available?