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Re:Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, includi... by m-p-3 on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @12:52PM (#23553619)
Because of its inevitable ties and implicit subservience to the CCP.
Re:Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, includi... by pesfandiar on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @12:57PM (#23553706)
The only "relevant" information found in the quote in the GP comment is the nationality of the CEO. How does one jump from the CEO's nationality to inevitable ties and implicit subservience to CCP?
Re:Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, includi... by mcbutterbunz on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @01:32PM (#23554160)
Didn't Zoom block a US based activist on the request of the Chinese government? I'm not arguing that there is complete subservience to the CCP but this censorship seems like a line was crossed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/11/technology/zoom-china-tia...

Edit: Let me also state that I'm not entirely sure what OP's argument was, considering the comment was deleted. I'm merely stating that there seems to be some cooperation with the CCP and Zoom.

Re:Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, includi... by pesfandiar on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @03:44PM (#23555830)
I'm aware of Zoom's track record, and it could certainly be scrutinized, criticized, or even boycotted.

What we have here is going from "CEO was born and raised in China" to "No wonder why they have to play party with CCP" and "inevitable ties and implicit subservience to the CCP". I can't see the logical connection in the absence of other information. Don't you see a problem with assuming someone's motives purely from their country of origin?

Re:Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, includi... by jatone on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @01:13PM (#23553906)
ignoring the quote for a second we know a few things about this CEO and zoom.

1. zoom's application is sending data to Chinese servers separate from the application functionality servers.

2. the CEO is from china, I'm going to assume he has relatives in china.

3. we know CCP is a completely fucked up government with an absolutely horrible history of civil rights violations, genocide, etc.

I wouldn't put it past CCP to be pressuring the CEO by threatening relatives who live in china. this wouldn't be unheard of for CCP.

add the the unnecessary data transfer to chinese servers makes it look really bad.

its a fairly reasonable conclusion to draw that the CEO is compromised if all the above holds true.

more extreme conclusions could just as easily be drawn from that same data that he is literally a foreign agent for china.

Re:Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, includi... by pesfandiar on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @04:05PM (#23556068)
I find myself agreeing with most of your points. I mainly took issue with taking a shortcut from "being born and raised in China" to being a hostile Chinese agent (and we don't even know if the CEO has relatives in China that can be leveraged anyway).
Re:Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, includi... by shaan1 on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @03:47PM (#23555863)
Very true.