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Re:Campuses getting less political as '60s professors retire by xlnt on Thursday July 03, 2008 @02:15PM (#235443)
Are you really denying that your view on Vietname is a political position, on the basis that you think you're right really strongly?
Re:Campuses getting less political as '60s professors retire by edw519 on Thursday July 03, 2008 @02:27PM (#235457)
Not at all. I'm just questioning the veracity of an article from a supposedly credible source that makes conclusions based upon outlying cases while completely ignoring the central issue.

I offer no personal view of Vietnam. I'm just saying that it was the central issue affecting the breeding ground of the subjects of the article.

Re:Campuses getting less political as '60s professors retire by xlnt on Thursday July 03, 2008 @02:32PM (#235461)
You say "I offer no personal view of Vietnam." but you said it was an "illegal, immoral, and unwinnable war"

Are you really unaware that people disagree on all 3 of those points? They are political positions.

Re:Campuses getting less political as '60s professors retire by edw519 on Thursday July 03, 2008 @02:37PM (#235466)
That was the argument of the protesters, not mine. Sorry. If only I could write prose as well as I could code. :-)
Re:Campuses getting less political as '60s professors retire by hugh on Thursday July 03, 2008 @02:42PM (#235476)
Ah, well all you need is a "what they saw as".

And for the most part, I don't think any of those other points was nearly as important as the draft. It's one thing to think that a current war is a bad idea, it's quite another to know that you might be forced to go and fight in it.

Re:Campuses getting less political as '60s professors retire by xlnt on Thursday July 03, 2008 @02:59PM (#235505)
If that was their argument, and it's a political argument, then they were "playing politics". That's all.
Re:Campuses getting less political as '60s professors retire by edw519 on Thursday July 03, 2008 @03:14PM (#235525)
In restrospect, it's easy for us to sit on our butts and call it "playing politics". But for many of them, it was literally a matter of life or death. Going to college or fleeing to Canada were their only options (unless you shot your toe off). Makes red states/blue states seem kinda lame, huh?
Re:Campuses getting less political as '60s professors retire by xlnt on Thursday July 03, 2008 @03:29PM (#235547)
If you don't want to be a soldier, that isn't playing politics. But as you said, that wasn't the position of most protestors.

If you say the war is immoral, illegal, or unwinnable, that is getting involved politics.