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Re:Harvard University Won’t Require SAT, ACT for Admissions ... by Spivak on Tuesday June 16, 2020 @10:55AM (#23539844)
Cramming for the test right at the end with SAT prep will add a few points but won’t do anything dramatic.

But if you get put in the “honors” track of a lot of high schools where the name of the game is to teach material informed by the SAT, ACT, AP, and IB teats then you almost can’t help but do well since you’ve been cramming for 4 years.

Re:Harvard University Won’t Require SAT, ACT for Admissions ... by hackinthebochs on Tuesday June 16, 2020 @11:50AM (#23540593)
It turns out actually learning the material on a test over the span of a few years helps you do well on the test. That used to be called getting an education.
Re:Harvard University Won’t Require SAT, ACT for Admissions ... by Spivak on Tuesday June 16, 2020 @12:36PM (#23541120)
Right! But the problem is that you don’t actually get much of an education along the way. You get a bunch of not super useful knowledge that you’ve almost surely forgotten and some test taking skills. This is the downfall of so many programs that teach to the test.
Re:Harvard University Won’t Require SAT, ACT for Admissions ... by hackinthebochs on Tuesday June 16, 2020 @02:09PM (#23542179)
The problem with this reasoning is that the SAT isn't an arbitrary test. Presumably the course material came before the SAT was developed to test mastery of the material. Sure, the course material then changes to better capture what the SAT measures, and the SAT adjusts in kind. But this adversarial process doesn't optimize arbitrarily. Learning SAT material (rather than say learning tricks) is learning substantial math and reading skills, the kind that serves you well in college. So characterizing this as anything other than getting an education is disingenuous.
Re:Harvard University Won’t Require SAT, ACT for Admissions ... by intended on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @08:47AM (#23550719)
Teaching the test and getting an education are not the same.
Re:Harvard University Won’t Require SAT, ACT for Admissions ... by recursive on Tuesday June 16, 2020 @01:31PM (#23541732)
> cramming for 4 years.

That's not called cramming. It's called "learning". It means the test is working as intended.

Re:Harvard University Won’t Require SAT, ACT for Admissions ... by malandrew on Tuesday June 16, 2020 @11:03AM (#23539958)
> since you’ve been cramming for 4 years.

You could say the same for pretty much every educated person who has done an undergraduate or postgraduate degree. Seems like a lot of human progress has been made as the result of people that have been "cramming for 4 years"

Re:Harvard University Won’t Require SAT, ACT for Admissions ... by zeroonetwothree on Tuesday June 16, 2020 @11:10AM (#23540051)
Any evidence to support this?