Re:Sendoid (YC W11): Finally, Sharing Big Files Isn’t A Huge...
by mayank on Monday March 21, 2011 @08:56PM
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Interesting. How do you punch through NATs and firewalls? If you're doing it with p2p proxies, how do you do authentication and avoid mitm attacks?
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Re:Sendoid (YC W11): Finally, Sharing Big Files Isn’t A Huge...
by jpravetz on Tuesday March 22, 2011 @01:39AM
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If Sendoid is completely relying on RTMFP then the core security technology would have to be coming from Adobe. Check out Matthew Kaufmann's two year old talk on the subject:
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/max-2008-develop/future-of-communi...
Or Tom Krcha's blog which contains a number of Flash P2P entries:
http://www.flashrealtime.com/
RTMFP is pretty fascinating technology that originates with a couple of very smart guys that Adobe brought on board (Matthew Kaufman and Michael Thornburgh).
I'm curious if the Sendoid team has a non-Flash solution for 'restricted' devices.
Re:Sendoid (YC W11): Finally, Sharing Big Files Isn’t A Huge...
by tptacek on Tuesday March 22, 2011 @12:15PM
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If I understand RTFMP (what I know I got from reading Cumulus, an open source C++ implementation), the security side of this is not thrilling me:
* It's Diffie Hellman for key agreement, which is trivially MITM'd (odds are, you can even zero out the DH key and it won't notice).
* It uses AES in CBC mode with all-zeroes IV's (so it's less secure than CBC mode).
* It's using a 16 bit CRC for message integrity checks instead of a cryptographic MAC.
I say all this with the caveat that I could be misreading Cumulus or Cumulus could have it wrong, but if this is where RTMFP is today, then Sendoid is substantially less secure than an HTTPS file transfer site.