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Re:Never Hertz to Ask by qeternity on Sunday June 14, 2020 @11:06AM (#23518189)
> Do they? Nobody buying this stock thinks Hertz is going to recover.

You should have a chat with them. People absolutely believe this. Same goes for airlines and cruise lines. I'm a former hedge fund trader, so I've had many of my friends come to me lately, and seek advice. I often ask how they're making money now and they say (for instance) things like "I walk/drive by Starbucks and I see people still buying coffee, so I bought SBUX". They're not doing any sort of real analysis, but their pseudo-analytic abilities are reinforced by the Fed. They don't really think that they were right because everything went up, they think it boils down to common-sense theses like the above.

Re:Never Hertz to Ask by fluffything on Sunday June 14, 2020 @03:29PM (#23520588)
Reading WSBs, those buying Hertz right now know they are idiots, and do it anyway, knowing that they will probably lose all their money, but hoping that if they do not, they can buy a lambo.
Re:Never Hertz to Ask by qeternity on Sunday June 14, 2020 @04:32PM (#23521070)
/r/wsb are not the ones driving this but rather the millions of new accounts at zero-cost brokers, hours and hours of boredom, and possibly stimulus checks
Re:Never Hertz to Ask by 0x8BADF00D on Sunday June 14, 2020 @05:23PM (#23521517)
Don’t forget about the market makers either. Robinhood and other brokerages sell data on the positions their traders are entering to their market makers (like Citadel). Then the algos front run the trade, and you end up in a situation where a stock like HTZ can rally exponentially in a day.
Re:Never Hertz to Ask by o-__-o on Sunday June 14, 2020 @01:08PM (#23519364)
The flip side is how Ford generates killer sales in China, China has the population of America in a single city, yet analysts look at a few recalls on a new model redesign and knock the shares down 50%

Common-sense fundamentals take a back seat to technical analysis and HFT algos these days

Re:Never Hertz to Ask by jeromegv on Sunday June 14, 2020 @01:17PM (#23519444)
If China actually had the population of the US in a single city, they wouldn’t be selling cars. There wouldn’t be enough physical space. People would take the subway.

May be you’re not actually looking at things in a common sense way.

Re:Never Hertz to Ask by hawkice on Sunday June 14, 2020 @04:36PM (#23521110)
If a city had more than 300 million people even subways wouldn't be enough. Maybe Asimov-inspired mass treadmill walkways (imagine massive things like airports but increasing in speed as you get further from the sidewalk).
Re:Never Hertz to Ask by Stratoscope on Sunday June 14, 2020 @03:10PM (#23520421)
USA = 328.2 million

Shanghai = 24.28 million

(2019 numbers)