Re:Microsoft: Rust Is the Industry’s ‘Best Chance’ at Safe S...
by Scarbutt on Saturday June 13, 2020 @03:39PM
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Then don't come near the Clojure community either, that's the most cultist one I have encountered.
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Re:Microsoft: Rust Is the Industry’s ‘Best Chance’ at Safe S...
by pcstl on Saturday June 13, 2020 @03:47PM
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That has a lot to do with Rich Hickey and Cognitect encouraging cultishness.
Re:Microsoft: Rust Is the Industry’s ‘Best Chance’ at Safe S...
by gleenn on Saturday June 13, 2020 @03:54PM
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Would you care to elaborate? I'm very fond of the language but have found people to be generally pleasant. The only criticism I have is that its a pretty small community so finding fellow Clojurists tends to be hard.
Re:Microsoft: Rust Is the Industry’s ‘Best Chance’ at Safe S...
by peferron on Saturday June 13, 2020 @05:03PM
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(Not the person you responded to.) My direct interactions with the Clojure community have been very pleasant and helpful, and I have zero complaints there. But when searching around for common questions related to Clojure, I often run into answers along the lines of "Clojure doesn't have X because our language is so superior we don't need it", which does sound cultish.
For example, I was looking for GraphQL ClojureScript libs a few days ago, and found a thread where the first answers were essentially:
- "If you can’t find a framework that does it, chances are it’s so easy to do in Clojure/ClojureScript that nobody bothers to put an abstraction there"
- "Datomic has been doing what GraphQL offers plus much more since like 2013"
Both answers are a bit cultish. The first suggests a lack of enlightenment. The second suggests that salvation can be found by embracing the cult even further and locking yourself into a proprietary database invented by Clojure's author and used almost exclusively by Clojurists.
(Edit: This thread was from 2017. Such answers may have become more rare since then.)
Re:Microsoft: Rust Is the Industry’s ‘Best Chance’ at Safe S...
by dustingetz on Saturday June 13, 2020 @05:31PM
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The second was probably me. Sorry about that. My words reflect me as an individual who is sometimes socially challenged, not the wider Clojure community.
Re:Microsoft: Rust Is the Industry’s ‘Best Chance’ at Safe S...
by peferron on Saturday June 13, 2020 @05:43PM
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Ouch—I didn't link to the thread in my previous comment specifically because I didn't want to point fingers at people who were trying to help back in 2017, even if I disagree with their answers, but here you are anyway! For what it's worth, I'd rather have more people in the Clojure community than fewer, even if I don't always share the same viewpoints.
Re:Microsoft: Rust Is the Industry’s ‘Best Chance’ at Safe S...
by entha_saava on Saturday June 13, 2020 @11:40PM
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At least they don't bring politics in it.