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Re:Zoom Acknowledges It Suspended Activists' Accounts at Chi... by Aunche on Saturday June 13, 2020 @09:22AM (#23509185)
Nobody is going to disagree that the US treats its citizens better, but we're talking about country's foreign influence here. China doesn't cripple the economy or bomb other countries they disagree with.
Re:Zoom Acknowledges It Suspended Activists' Accounts at Chi... by komali2 on Saturday June 13, 2020 @11:52AM (#23510278)
Do they not? They certainly were willing to outright invade a sovereign nation of mostly peaceful monks (Tibet) with ground forces, then claim the territory as its own, something I don't think the USA has done since Puerto Rico (the expansionism specifically).

They also challenge the sovereignty of Taiwan regularly - it was China who refused to allow two sovereign nations of Chinese origin when the UN switched the Chinese seat to the PRC.

Different countries different tools. The PRC has only really come into its element in the last 3 decades. The USA's foreign policy advocates-through-violence (CIA) don't have the best track record for success but they do have 80 years of experience. Give China time and I expect they'll start doing the same.

Re:Zoom Acknowledges It Suspended Activists' Accounts at Chi... by Aunche on Saturday June 13, 2020 @12:31PM (#23510591)
China's invasion of Tibet was just a battle between two warlords, much like those that occurred before it. China didn't start terrorizing peaceful monks until the Cultural Revolution, well after China incorporated Tibet.

> Give China time and I expect they'll start doing the same.

Fair enough, but I hope the US and China incentivize each other to not impose their will on the rest of the world.

Re:Zoom Acknowledges It Suspended Activists' Accounts at Chi... by rayiner on Saturday June 13, 2020 @10:06AM (#23509420)
> China doesn't cripple the economy or bomb other countries they disagree with.

Is that a bad thing if we're trying to promulgate our values?

Re:Zoom Acknowledges It Suspended Activists' Accounts at Chi... by joyfulmantis on Saturday June 13, 2020 @10:29AM (#23509590)
Yes it is, no matter how good you think your values are the end never justifies the means
Re:Zoom Acknowledges It Suspended Activists' Accounts at Chi... by fit2rule on Saturday June 13, 2020 @10:53AM (#23509796)
Societies which promulgate their values by murdering innocent people don't last long. Certainly you can see some fairly decent examples on the History Channel ...
Re:Zoom Acknowledges It Suspended Activists' Accounts at Chi... by Aunche on Saturday June 13, 2020 @11:19AM (#23510033)
I mean from the CCP's perspective, China is promulgating their values to the Uyghurs.